not a good day at the range
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Spike
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Went the other day I was going to take all the guns optima,kodiak and the optima pro but I got a really late start so I left the optima pro and kodiak home. Well long story short I am agravated I set and shot and shot and shot and didnt hit bullseye. I started out shooting at about 85 yards and was missing so I decided to come in to 50 yards, so I did that. Shot after shot I wasnt really even close to the bullseye I was also shooting to the left (sorry no pics) and was hitting about 6 inches from the center and a tad bit low. I raised the site up the ramp to raise the point of impact and it didnt seem as if it made much difference. and I moved my sights over to the right and it didnt seem to do much difference either. I am not sure whats going on but I am getting a bit agravated. I am using 100 grains of RS loose along with a 300 grain hornady xtp sabot, does this sound right? or could the bullet weight be making this un accurate? I guess I am going to go back out and take the kodiak and optima pro out and see what happens..........Shaun
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#2
Well it sounds like an excellent load you were shooting. Were you swabbing the barrel between shots? If so, were you doing it the same way every time?
A lot of time, people start too far away when working up a load. I like 25 yards until it shoots a hole on the bull. Then I back up to the other distances. It always seems to work better for me that way then going out and starting at the extreme distance.
If you're using loose powder, start your loads at 80 grains and work up from there.. also you might have a powder junkie rifle and it likes strong loads. Perhaps try a 110 grains. Its hard to say what a rifle and load will do. Good luck.
A lot of time, people start too far away when working up a load. I like 25 yards until it shoots a hole on the bull. Then I back up to the other distances. It always seems to work better for me that way then going out and starting at the extreme distance.
If you're using loose powder, start your loads at 80 grains and work up from there.. also you might have a powder junkie rifle and it likes strong loads. Perhaps try a 110 grains. Its hard to say what a rifle and load will do. Good luck.
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Spike
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Cayugad,
I swabbed after like every three shots. I did do this in the same way. I will try using the different loads like you suggested and see what happens from there and I meant to state above that I came into 25 yards and I kept shooting and shooting with the same results. Now would a different grain weight bullet make any difference lets say I tried a 240 grain weight bullet instead of the 300 grain would that make it more accurate switching to different grain weight bullets or would the powder load be more likely causing me to be less accurate? thanks for the time I appreciate it.......Shaun
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I swabbed after like every three shots. I did do this in the same way. I will try using the different loads like you suggested and see what happens from there and I meant to state above that I came into 25 yards and I kept shooting and shooting with the same results. Now would a different grain weight bullet make any difference lets say I tried a 240 grain weight bullet instead of the 300 grain would that make it more accurate switching to different grain weight bullets or would the powder load be more likely causing me to be less accurate? thanks for the time I appreciate it.......Shaun
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You might have one of them rifles that just do not like the 300 grain bullet. My CVA Staghorn does great with 90 grains and about anything else I shove down it. Some rifles just like certain loads. You could try a 240 grain XTP or a 250 grain Shockwave and see if that does not make a difference. That and swab after each shot and see if that makes a difference.
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One other thing to check.. I am sure this is not the case but..
check the sights or scope mounts what ever you are using. Some times they are just a little loose and that can make all the difference in the world.
check the sights or scope mounts what ever you are using. Some times they are just a little loose and that can make all the difference in the world.
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Spike
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Hi,
yeah I am using regular sights on this rifle, I just went and checked and they are real tight. I will go out and try again with the 300 grains and will take my other guns also and see how they do. I will also try the powder recomendations u said to try and see how that turns out. I will then get the 240 grain xtps and see how them do if I cant get better accuracy out of the 300 grain using the optima. One last question is, now on the RS loose should I be packing this or no? I havent used loose before always used pellets thanks for the time and help....Shaun
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yeah I am using regular sights on this rifle, I just went and checked and they are real tight. I will go out and try again with the 300 grains and will take my other guns also and see how they do. I will also try the powder recomendations u said to try and see how that turns out. I will then get the 240 grain xtps and see how them do if I cant get better accuracy out of the 300 grain using the optima. One last question is, now on the RS loose should I be packing this or no? I havent used loose before always used pellets thanks for the time and help....Shaun
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shaunm81
You can do it with out a bore sighter and get it pretty ruffed...
Take a card board box cut two "V's" in the open upper edges to set the rifle or barrel in (so that it cradles the gun with little movement)or a rifle cradle if you have one.the barrel needs toremain steady... Point the barrel downa hall or the longest distance you can get to a target wall... Take the breech plug out anf look through the barrel at the wall - have someone place a target on the wall center the target in the barrel then tape the target in place. Then look through the sites and see where they are looking.... make a mental note - adjust the sights to center them on the bull without moving the barrel.... that is the poorman's method anyway that is what I used for years... It is clumbersome but it will work...
You can do it with out a bore sighter and get it pretty ruffed...
Take a card board box cut two "V's" in the open upper edges to set the rifle or barrel in (so that it cradles the gun with little movement)or a rifle cradle if you have one.the barrel needs toremain steady... Point the barrel downa hall or the longest distance you can get to a target wall... Take the breech plug out anf look through the barrel at the wall - have someone place a target on the wall center the target in the barrel then tape the target in place. Then look through the sites and see where they are looking.... make a mental note - adjust the sights to center them on the bull without moving the barrel.... that is the poorman's method anyway that is what I used for years... It is clumbersome but it will work...
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Hi,
Thanks Sabotloader I will try that out for sure! thanks for that idea. Now on the loose RS should I be packing that with my ramrod? or just let it go loose in the barrell? thanks again.......Shaun
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Thanks Sabotloader I will try that out for sure! thanks for that idea. Now on the loose RS should I be packing that with my ramrod? or just let it go loose in the barrell? thanks again.......Shaun
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