If I was shooting your rifle, I would get a pack of Thompson Center 240 grain Mag Express w/sabots and a pack of Hornady XTP's 300 grain with sabots. Shoot about 80 grains of your Pyrodex RS or P and get sighted in and set. The 300 grain shoot real good out of my Wolverine. So do Shockwaves actually.

All too often I used to monkey around and then at the last minute had a rifle with a load I could not trust. Even if you ordered the Sierra they might take a couple days to get to you. Although MidSouth is real good about fast shipping. Graf's can take a while. The XTP's you can buy local normally and the price is good and you do not pay shipping, and they are in your hands for testing.

"If I was shooting your rifle, I would get a pack of Thompson Center 240 grain Mag Express w/sabots and a pack of Hornady XTP's 300 grain with sabots. Shoot about 80 grains of your Pyrodex RS or P and get sighted in and set. The 300 grain shoot real good out of my Wolverine."

Bingo!!! The XTP bullets are real good deer killers. With one possible exception, i've never used the XTP/Mag. bullets, but they get really good reports.

i would not use that 230 grain bullet on deer or hogs: Me thinks it is a .45 automatic bullet.

I picked up some 44 cal, 240 gr xtp's today, $22 no to bad, I spent more on the package deals. I have some green mmps. I have shot 45 cal 240 gr xtp's with the mag express. got some good groups until I mess up my scope. should I pick up some mag express sabots? I know a place that is saling them in bulk locally.

how would they do?

Be the same?

All I can tell you is they shoot well out of my Knight Rifles.

corey012778

Check those TC-240's - they could be either .430 or .452 - TC sells both... what color sabot does the TC-240's have? Nevermind you said they were 45's...

The 44 cal TC mag express will be green also.

Seems that if you are shooting a Knight - that the regular green MMP sabots should work just fine...

all I need now is a little time to set up my charges. I am planning 20 to 25 loads, 5 shots each. I also planning on starting with the 85 grs of pyrodex p (where I shot the .452 240 gr xtp's with and got a good group 100 yrds). is that a bad idea or just work it up like I did the old load.


I don't think I can get another session before opening day, unless I skip the first week. I have a 6 weeks of hunting season. of couse one of my spots is my back yard.

scout report I got from a family member:
3 bucks, 2 10 points, 1 12 points, 10 does, they eat corn, wheat, and barly.



man that breaks my heart. everyone is out of that damn bullet [:@]