Can you tell me a brand of muzzle loader that can shoot long distances "200+ yards" and what bullet/powder combination to use. Thanks!!!

If smokeless is legal then a Savage ML10-II would be my first choice. Other ones would be the Knight Long Range Hunter, T/C Pro Hunter, T/C Omega, Kinght Disc Extreme, and I am sure some of the better CVA's and Traditions could do the job.

As for projectiles, you need to get the rifle first. Some of them like certain projectiles better then others. Also, 200 yards will require some good optics and a lot of range time. Good luck.

cayugad have you ever seen the badbull muzzy's,personally I will never have the money to buy one but was wondering what someone with your experience thought about these guns?

Only on line. I must admit they are a nice lookingrifle, but a little more then I care to pay. I personally do not see the need for one. Especially where I live and hunt. Actually where I live and hunt a good traditional rifle would do it all.

With what the new modern inlines will do, I think that is all that is needed. Although some of the claims Badbull and Ultimate muzzleloader make are interesting. One bad problem is,their claims are what those that oppose inlines and hunting season for muzzleloaders in general use as ammunition against us.

The Indiana DNR regulations don't specify a black powder muzzleloader. I checked them earlier tonight. Wouldn't it be pushing it though with one of those bad bull muzzleloaders. There are those people who say inlines are pretty much a centerfire rifle, and I say the same about the smokeless muzzleloaders by bad bull. These guns are suppose to have atleast a little chance to them. If I were you I'd go with the Pro Hunter or Optima Elite 29" barrel. You may be able to work up a load before the 17th of november that can take a deer out to around two hundred yards.

One more thing. Knight has a rifle that they guarantee 4" groups at 200yds

An Omega, or Triumph with 200gr 50/40 Shock Waves and a good scope. I would try Pyrodex RS and 777-FF and used what the rifle liked. Either would want a heavy load for 200 yds I have one of each they will group under 4.5 inches at that yds, though a chance to get a shoot that far hunting and here is not commen I do have a couple spots where it could happen. Lee
PS They are Thompson Center brand

200+ yards? Savage 10ML2 with any of these bullets:
SW
Parker Ballistic Extreme
Dead Center
Barnes TMZ
with 4198 powder. Lots of guys shoot this load and have good results to 200 yards. I would say to get a 4 to 12 scope also or a 4.5 to 14, the 3 to 9 is a good 100 to 150 yard scope. Chap Gleason

I took a deer this year with my CVA Optima Pro at 180 yards. In order to accomplish this, I have done a lot of long range shooting. You have to find the right load and practice, practice, practice. Also, you have to know your gun "intimately" and where it's going to hit at 50, 100, 150, 175 and 200yards. Sabotloader sent me a ballistic chart for several bullets but I prefer 100 grains of loose T-7, a 260 grain Nosler .451 HP, and a MMP 24 sabot. When I first joined this forum, I had the "more powder the farther shot syndrone". After listening to these guys, I realized that was the problem. I was shooting 150 grains of powder and it was to much. When I lowered the powder charge, my groups came together. Both deer that I've taken so far had a complete pass through.

Good luck and God bless!

I've had CVA ML, and recently own both the Omega and the Pro Hunter. I can't say enough about the Pro Hunter, its just an awesome gun, and a dream to shoot!