Range Report-45 Disc Elite
10-06-2007 | 07:38 PM
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Range Report-45 Disc Elite
Well I got out this morning with the 45cal Disc Elite and theProChrono and got some numbers for Trip7 2Fg 80grains Actual Wieght/ 100grains By Volume, Pinnacle 3Fg, APP 2Fg, APP 3Fg, and Shockey's Gold 3Fg-ALL these used same load-exactly 92grains Actual Wieght/ 100grains By Volume. These By Volume wieghts determined by a CVA brass measure, tapped until I could'nt get any more in it, and Actual Wieght determined by my RCBS 502 Balance Beam Scales
All shooting done @25yards.
Weather was 70deg, Humidity bout 80%, Wind at my back bout 8 MPH, partly cloudy.
Had some strange readings first thing, shooting 200g 10m/40 cal XTP in Harvester Crush Rib(HCB)[&:] So I swapped batteries and tried again! And got the same results
Shockey's 3FG 100grains by vol(BV), 92grains by Actual Wieght(AW)
Average(12 shots)-2434fps
Well that still shocked me, cause I really did'nt expect that kinda speed. So I switched bullets. I then started using 275 HP/PowerBelts with the same 100grain loads as above:
APP 2Fg avg- 1966
Shocky's avg- 1952
Pinnacle avg-1937
APP 3Fg avg- 1946
Trip7 2Fg avg- 1724
OK, so then I did some 200grain 10mm/40calXTP's in the HCR sabots, with70grain by Volume measurements. APP products all wieghed in at 65grains Actual Wieght, with Trip7 at 56grains AW.
APP 2Fg avg- 1993
Shocky's avg- 1981
Trip7 2Fg avg- 1870
Pinnacle avg-Duh...Forgot to load up the Pinnacle tubes[:@][&:]
APP 3Fg avg- 1685
Well that's pretty much all the time I had this morning!
Sombody chime in here and let me know what cha tink
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All shooting done @25yards.Weather was 70deg, Humidity bout 80%, Wind at my back bout 8 MPH, partly cloudy.
Had some strange readings first thing, shooting 200g 10m/40 cal XTP in Harvester Crush Rib(HCB)[&:] So I swapped batteries and tried again! And got the same results
Shockey's 3FG 100grains by vol(BV), 92grains by Actual Wieght(AW)
Average(12 shots)-2434fps
Well that still shocked me, cause I really did'nt expect that kinda speed. So I switched bullets. I then started using 275 HP/PowerBelts with the same 100grain loads as above:
APP 2Fg avg- 1966
Shocky's avg- 1952
Pinnacle avg-1937
APP 3Fg avg- 1946
Trip7 2Fg avg- 1724
OK, so then I did some 200grain 10mm/40calXTP's in the HCR sabots, with70grain by Volume measurements. APP products all wieghed in at 65grains Actual Wieght, with Trip7 at 56grains AW.
APP 2Fg avg- 1993
Shocky's avg- 1981
Trip7 2Fg avg- 1870
Pinnacle avg-Duh...Forgot to load up the Pinnacle tubes[:@][&:]
APP 3Fg avg- 1685
Well that's pretty much all the time I had this morning!
Sombody chime in here and let me know what cha tink
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10-06-2007 | 07:56 PM
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RE: Range Report-45 Disc Elite
LaneNebraska
I have the same chrono and I shoot the 10mm 200 grain XTP with 100 grains of T7-2f @ 2000 fps and that is the average from the Omega and the Remingtons from the WhiteI shoot 110 grains of T7-2f (2150fps ave)- but I do use a MMP HPH 40/50 Blue sabot.
I have the same chrono and I shoot the 10mm 200 grain XTP with 100 grains of T7-2f @ 2000 fps and that is the average from the Omega and the Remingtons from the WhiteI shoot 110 grains of T7-2f (2150fps ave)- but I do use a MMP HPH 40/50 Blue sabot.
10-06-2007 | 08:15 PM
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RE: Range Report-45 Disc Elite
Thanks sabotloader
Idunno, just can't make sense of that high velocity for the XTP. I'm gonna look for some old stats I did last year and see if these are even close. Hope my Chrono is'nt taking a dive[&:]
Idunno, just can't make sense of that high velocity for the XTP. I'm gonna look for some old stats I did last year and see if these are even close. Hope my Chrono is'nt taking a dive[&:]
10-06-2007 | 09:14 PM
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RE: Range Report-45 Disc Elite
LaneNebraska
I do not know but those pro-chronos are pretty good chronos...
Here is a target shot from my A&H with several velocities...
Hope my Chrono is'nt taking a dive
Here is a target shot from my A&H with several velocities...
10-06-2007 | 09:41 PM
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RE: Range Report-45 Disc Elite
OK
Found some of my First stats I did with the Prochrono from 30Sep06:
Maybe the sabots are causing trouble out to 25yards????[&:]
Next Cool day...I'm going to re-do it again
Found some of my First stats I did with the Prochrono from 30Sep06:
Got out to the range with my new chronograph and recorded stats on loose Pinnacle powder 150grains and 120grains. Using CCI primers and the PowerStem breech plug. All recordings are @ 10 feet from the muzzle.
150/120 grains with 40cal Tan MMP sabot:
200grain ShockWave- 2232/2073
195g QT PR Bullet - 2287/2130
175g RedHot - 2453/2290
225g LBT PR Bullet - 2190/2033
200g XTP 10mil - 2290/2129
36cal 70g Hornady RB in PR Bullet 45/357cal sabot--2842/2680 :shock: :shock:
36cal 70g Hornady RB in PR Bullet 45/357cal sabot with 2 Round Balls and 150g Pinnacle--2306
Harvester Crushed Rib Sabots:
I found out the Harvester Crushed Rib 45cal Sabots only last about 2 shots per above 40cal bullets. And really accurate for the FIRST shot on a clean barrel. After that they foul the rifling with plastic residue and go all-haywire! But that first shot was just about dead center at 85 yards for the Shockwave, QT, XTP 10mil, and the LBT
However, the 200g XTP 10mil bullets loved them, and I could get about 5 shots off with out swabbing. Held a 2inch group at 85 yards. With the first shot with a clean barrel, dead center every time!
PS
The exact weights of the powder are--150grains By Volume= 136grains by Actual Weight.
120grains BV= 110grains AW
150/120 grains with 40cal Tan MMP sabot:
200grain ShockWave- 2232/2073
195g QT PR Bullet - 2287/2130
175g RedHot - 2453/2290
225g LBT PR Bullet - 2190/2033
200g XTP 10mil - 2290/2129
36cal 70g Hornady RB in PR Bullet 45/357cal sabot--2842/2680 :shock: :shock:
36cal 70g Hornady RB in PR Bullet 45/357cal sabot with 2 Round Balls and 150g Pinnacle--2306
Harvester Crushed Rib Sabots:
I found out the Harvester Crushed Rib 45cal Sabots only last about 2 shots per above 40cal bullets. And really accurate for the FIRST shot on a clean barrel. After that they foul the rifling with plastic residue and go all-haywire! But that first shot was just about dead center at 85 yards for the Shockwave, QT, XTP 10mil, and the LBT
However, the 200g XTP 10mil bullets loved them, and I could get about 5 shots off with out swabbing. Held a 2inch group at 85 yards. With the first shot with a clean barrel, dead center every time!
PS
The exact weights of the powder are--150grains By Volume= 136grains by Actual Weight.
120grains BV= 110grains AW
Maybe the sabots are causing trouble out to 25yards????[&:]
Next Cool day...I'm going to re-do it again
10-06-2007 | 09:47 PM
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