Encore Quality??
#1
Typical Buck
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Encore Quality??
First I have an encore and love it.
Was at the bait shop yesterday and the owner was telling me that a while back a guy bought an Encore 209x50,went out to shoot it and it wouldn't fire.brought it back and found out it didn't have a fireing pin in it.Checked others to get a firing pin and none of the ones he had had a firing pin in them either.T/C sent them firing pins for them and he had to get someone to install them.
Now days I guess good help is hard to find,doesn't seem like they have final inspection before they send them out.
No wonder they have a hard time answering e-mail,don't guess anyone is there.
I bet those weren't dead on out of the box????
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Was at the bait shop yesterday and the owner was telling me that a while back a guy bought an Encore 209x50,went out to shoot it and it wouldn't fire.brought it back and found out it didn't have a fireing pin in it.Checked others to get a firing pin and none of the ones he had had a firing pin in them either.T/C sent them firing pins for them and he had to get someone to install them.
Now days I guess good help is hard to find,doesn't seem like they have final inspection before they send them out.
No wonder they have a hard time answering e-mail,don't guess anyone is there.
I bet those weren't dead on out of the box????
http://www.hunting-pictures.com/memb...ght&encore.jpg
#2
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
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RE: Encore Quality??
That's the new "ultimate safety" feature, Herman. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> Yep, I think T/C has sort of lost the bubble on some aspects of their QC. And, how about those 209x45 barrels?
No longer able to answer emails - I sent three emails to T/C BEFORE they made that announcement and have received no answer. Seems a good way to help silence the crowd. Of course, all you ever got before was a very slightly altered canned response from T.P. .
No longer able to answer emails - I sent three emails to T/C BEFORE they made that announcement and have received no answer. Seems a good way to help silence the crowd. Of course, all you ever got before was a very slightly altered canned response from T.P. .
#3
Typical Buck
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RE: Encore Quality??
No wonder I don't get any answers from them,didn't know they quit e-mailing.I guess they are getting like all the other manufactors after they get your hard earned money,to hell with you.When I grew up people would bust their ass to help you,not so now days.just go to wally world or K-mart and ask for some help,that is if you can find anyone to ask.No wonder K-mart is going under.
I have and have had other T?C muzzleloaders,have written them several times about the 209x45 being a piece of crap,they have never sugested to send it to them to see why it wouldn't shoot.They told me last year that they were experimenting with a different twist rate for it this year they can't even answer a simple question( did the twist change or not).I would just go ahead and send it to them but they would either send it back saying that there was nothing wrong with it or send a new one with the same problem.
I know one fellow that sent his back and they told him there was nothing wrong with it,He told them he didn't want it back,if they were so proud of it to hang it on their wall.
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I have and have had other T?C muzzleloaders,have written them several times about the 209x45 being a piece of crap,they have never sugested to send it to them to see why it wouldn't shoot.They told me last year that they were experimenting with a different twist rate for it this year they can't even answer a simple question( did the twist change or not).I would just go ahead and send it to them but they would either send it back saying that there was nothing wrong with it or send a new one with the same problem.
I know one fellow that sent his back and they told him there was nothing wrong with it,He told them he didn't want it back,if they were so proud of it to hang it on their wall.
http://www.hunting-pictures.com/memb...ght&encore.jpg
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RE: Encore Quality??
I got my encore over a year ago and had some questions on it that I sent to T/C I recieved a part and reply within a few days. I have had good luck with them I may be the exception I am not sure but was pleased at there responce.
#6
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RE: Encore Quality??
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If you send the gun back to them with a note, I bet they will make it right.
I am going to wait and see if they change the twist rate first.
According to the fellow at pression bullets they sent him a protype with 1:28 twist and they told me last year that they were working on a different twist.
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If you send the gun back to them with a note, I bet they will make it right.
I am going to wait and see if they change the twist rate first.
According to the fellow at pression bullets they sent him a protype with 1:28 twist and they told me last year that they were working on a different twist.
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RE: Encore Quality??
Well I packaged up my 209x45 barrel and sent it back to T/C,I included the groups I got from the 209x50,I have seen on this board and others that more guys than me was having trouble with the 45 cal,so I guess I will have to wait and see what they do about it.Will post results
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#8
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Encore Quality??
Please do let us know. I'm looking at a deal on a blue/wood .50 caliber 209x50 with Leupold QR base and rings, <font size=1>Tasco...</font id=size1>..<font size=2>6X scope, and all the extras the guy has for the rifle for 470 delivered. Seem like a good deal to you, Herman?</font id=size2>
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RE: Encore Quality??
sounds like a good deal to me,I gave 479 + tax when I bought mine with out scope bases and rings and any extras,I think you will really like the 50 cal.I do mine.
Haven't heard from T/C will post when I find out anything.
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Haven't heard from T/C will post when I find out anything.
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#10
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RE: Encore Quality??
ok i was in the gun store today and was lookin at the tc encore 50cal and i loved the way it felt, any problems with this one or is it only the 45cal?
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