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sabotloader 08-09-2007 08:42 AM

RE: I got a "peeper" with the White
 
yeoman


At 200 yds., why did you decide to shoot the 250's rather than the 10MM/200's you used on the "birds"?
I was going to write you a PM about that as a matter of fact...

Remember, I said I put 3 birds @ 175 yards, It took me 4 shots with the 250's to hit two birds (2 misses @ bird 1)- the first two shots being low but windage was very good. Then two shots to get the bird with the 200's - but when it took 2 with the 200's my mind is trying to figure out why? Because i really believed the 200's would be a better bullet in the air. I know I am shooting it faster and i know it should shoot flatter. But there is a moral to this story....

Next, I set up a target @ 200 and I decide I am going to shoot the 200 yard group with the 200grain XTP's. I also decide I now know that i should hold the post on the bull and everything should be alright. I shot3 200's at the target could not see where they hitting - I could hear them hit but I couldn't see them on 9 power, and dufus forgot the spotting scope. So I walk out to the target - the three 200's were all between 1 and6 to inches low and probably 6 to 8" apart all wide all to the right. It was terrible. This is with the post on the bull. So I went back and and loaded up the 250's and shot three of them post on the bull, walked out and checked - 2 of them were right and one left but at least they were near the point they were suppose to go.

After thinking about this on the drive home, I hate it when I can't explain something that should be obvious, why did the 200's not perform as I would have expected and I have two theories - which i will check out soon.

1. When you set the target at 200 yardsthere is another rather large draw coming into the shooting draw on the left + plus the main shooting draw widens significantly. There were significant down draw drafts that morning so I am thinking the left to right draft casued all the bullets to move right and without the velocity they moved even more.

2. The White being a .504, whichI call is a slight overbore as compared to the other 50's I have - the sabot was just to loose in the bore and I was loosing pressure. In fact I had discussed with Wolfhound the other day that I was amazed that the MMP Blue sabot would fit all of my 50's from the White down to the tight GM LRH barrel. I noe believe that the blue MMP 40cal sabot will not work that well out of the White - it looks good at a 100 but it is not doing the job beyond that. It might also explain why when I shoot the 200's from the White and 300 Gold Dots from the White they hit the 100 yard target in abou the same place. I am sure I am loosing pressure.

My test! I am going back to Elk River sometime this month, hopefully before football starts - they conned me into to coaching again this year - I retired from that also a year or two ago - but I am going to take the Remington 700ML up and do the same test again. It is a much tighter barrel and does have the Bushnell 3200 with a ballistic reticule. I honestly believe the 200 will perform then - but I got to prove it to myself.

cascadedad 08-09-2007 10:01 AM

RE: I got a "peeper" with the White
 
I don't see what all the fuss is about. SL had an opportunity to come over this weekend to finally settle things, but he chickened out.

sabotloader 08-09-2007 10:20 AM

RE: I got a "peeper" with the White
 
daddyC

Backwards again, I had to work - some of us retired guys still gotta do that...

cayugad 08-09-2007 11:51 AM

RE: I got a "peeper" with the White
 
bite your tongue SL. C-dad he was worried he'd get his pants wet washing your truck...

cascadedad 08-09-2007 12:30 PM

RE: I got a "peeper" with the White
 
:D:D:D

yeoman 08-09-2007 12:45 PM

RE: I got a "peeper" with the White
 
SL - Interesting. Maybe you will take your Chrono with you. If losing pressure it should be obvious at the muzzle, no?

sabotloader 08-09-2007 01:11 PM

RE: I got a "peeper" with the White
 
It would be reflected on the chrono... I was just positive it would be OK because I have shot them to 100 b4 from the White and they grouped really....

I am really leaning to going out tomorrow morning with the Remington....


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