Accuracy problem
07-30-2007 | 05:31 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Accuracy problem
ORIGINAL: Bigtimer
Well, the guy that was going to sell me his muzzleloader changed his mind and GAVE it to me. It's not a hawkens, it's a plainsman. The rifle looks like new. It has a few scratches around the nipple and the little screw just below it has some marks from a screwdriver on it. I tried to pay him but he insisted that he just wanted to git rid of it. The only thing that I dont like is the finish on the stock but I don't know what can be done about it. Get this, he also gave me an ammunition box that he said, had some junk in it.
Here's what I found:
4 boxes of round balls
a big box of maxi balls
2 lbs of goex powder
no.11 caps
brass powder measurer
brass capper
bullet puller
patch puller nipple wrench
patches and a bunch more "junk"
My LUCKY DAY!!
Well, the guy that was going to sell me his muzzleloader changed his mind and GAVE it to me. It's not a hawkens, it's a plainsman. The rifle looks like new. It has a few scratches around the nipple and the little screw just below it has some marks from a screwdriver on it. I tried to pay him but he insisted that he just wanted to git rid of it. The only thing that I dont like is the finish on the stock but I don't know what can be done about it. Get this, he also gave me an ammunition box that he said, had some junk in it.
Here's what I found:
4 boxes of round balls
a big box of maxi balls
2 lbs of goex powder
no.11 caps
brass powder measurer
brass capper
bullet puller
patch puller nipple wrench
patches and a bunch more "junk"
My LUCKY DAY!!
07-30-2007 | 05:39 PM
#32
Nontypical Buck
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I never dreamed that my optima pro was capable of a group this tight[:-] Two bullets from a three shot group were TOUCHING each other and the 3rd hole was only 1/2 inch from those. I really want to thank everyone for their help, especially sabotloader and wabi. I have a photo but can't figure out how to post it.
I never dreamed that my optima pro was capable of a group this tight[:-] Two bullets from a three shot group were TOUCHING each other and the 3rd hole was only 1/2 inch from those. I really want to thank everyone for their help, especially sabotloader and wabi. I have a photo but can't figure out how to post it.
07-30-2007 | 07:02 PM
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Fork Horn
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It's a .50 cal. It's taken me about 1 and 1/2 hours to get it clean. He said that he put a little bore butter down the barrel before he put it up. Little = 5lbs[:@]. Anyhow, he's a golfer so I thought I'd go by the proshop tomorrow and pick him up a gift certificate
. I can't wait to shoot it.
. I can't wait to shoot it.
07-30-2007 | 07:31 PM
#37
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Accuracy problem
Sounds like you're getting into muzzleloading whether you intended to or not. 
Good to hear it was in good shape. Those things can be a lot of fun to shoot. Let us know how it does when you have a chance to shoot it!
Good to hear it was in good shape. Those things can be a lot of fun to shoot. Let us know how it does when you have a chance to shoot it!
07-30-2007 | 08:01 PM
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Boone & Crockett
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RE: Accuracy problem
Bigtimer
Stay away from the Bore Butter for right now. There is a way to use bore butter and have it work for you, but just putting raw BB down the barrel is not the way. Treat that barrel the same as you would your Optima barrel.
I use to use BB a lot but have found an alternative product Slip 2000 that works even better, so I am not using it any longer. If you choose to shoot real BP from that barrel, I really would suggest Slip 2000 or then back to using BB but - you would need to use it what I call correctly. If your interested let me know and I'll send you some thoughts.
You can shoot sabots from that barrel also but i would suggest you moveto go to 300 grain bullets and the HPH-24's should work just fine. If you choose to shoot Conicals I have not found a conical much better the a 460 grain BullShop or even the 460 NE. I am assuming you will need a conical sized @ .503. I would really stay away from a lot of the other varieties out there to begin with.
Start @ 70 grains of T7, but you might also want to make a change here also, instead of using 2f geta bottle of 3f it will work a lot better in your sidehammer gun. I shoot 80 grains in my TC Renegades and 90 grains in my Green Mountain barrel.
Wish I would stumble on a deal like that....
Stay away from the Bore Butter for right now. There is a way to use bore butter and have it work for you, but just putting raw BB down the barrel is not the way. Treat that barrel the same as you would your Optima barrel.
I use to use BB a lot but have found an alternative product Slip 2000 that works even better, so I am not using it any longer. If you choose to shoot real BP from that barrel, I really would suggest Slip 2000 or then back to using BB but - you would need to use it what I call correctly. If your interested let me know and I'll send you some thoughts.
You can shoot sabots from that barrel also but i would suggest you moveto go to 300 grain bullets and the HPH-24's should work just fine. If you choose to shoot Conicals I have not found a conical much better the a 460 grain BullShop or even the 460 NE. I am assuming you will need a conical sized @ .503. I would really stay away from a lot of the other varieties out there to begin with.
Start @ 70 grains of T7, but you might also want to make a change here also, instead of using 2f geta bottle of 3f it will work a lot better in your sidehammer gun. I shoot 80 grains in my TC Renegades and 90 grains in my Green Mountain barrel.
Wish I would stumble on a deal like that....
07-31-2007 | 10:43 PM
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245 grain powerbelt or a 295 powerbelt with 80-90 grains pyrodex RS. Also to tame down recoil, i would have a gun smith put on a limbsaver recoil pad. Had one put on my winchester and shooting a 385 grain great plains bullet, recoil feels like im shooting my 30-30.
245 grain powerbelt or a 295 powerbelt with 80-90 grains pyrodex RS. Also to tame down recoil, i would have a gun smith put on a limbsaver recoil pad. Had one put on my winchester and shooting a 385 grain great plains bullet, recoil feels like im shooting my 30-30.
07-31-2007 | 10:48 PM
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Actually i had to have a gunsmith install mine. Im not sure if the stock design is the same, but my screws went in at an angle. With the cva optima, thats more than likely a hollow stock and will require a bit of work if the screw angle was like mine. Luckily i had the solid stock
Or a Slipover limbsaver is also an excellent way to go! Slip it right over your original.
Or a Slipover limbsaver is also an excellent way to go! Slip it right over your original.
