Savage 10 ML
06-01-2007 | 01:34 PM
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RE: Savage 10 ML
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My best load is the IMR4759 (47.5 grs) 250 sst or sw.and win primers.This is a stout load and gives 2440 fps.I think a lot of fellows use this powder and 42 0r 43 grs and the 250 and 300.
My best load is the IMR4759 (47.5 grs) 250 sst or sw.and win primers.This is a stout load and gives 2440 fps.I think a lot of fellows use this powder and 42 0r 43 grs and the 250 and 300.
Randy Wakeman says this about the4759, have you experienced this?
Chap
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Hodgdon / IMR SR4759
If anything, a wee notch slower than Vihtavouri N110, SR4759 has generally good availability, its primary attribute, and is best used only for 250 grain bullets. About 42 grains is a reasonable charge, with a cautionary note. Poor Hodgdon / IMR quality control has resulted in up to 200 fps lot-to-lot variations.
Several shooters like this powder, but if you change to a new can from a different lot, you had better bring your chronograph to the range with you. You may have to go down two full grains to eliminate sabot damage, or go up two full grains to get the same performance as before. The lot to lot consistency makes it not worth my time these days, particularly when hunting out of state. A new can of this stuff can be a brave new world.
06-01-2007 | 01:49 PM
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You can also order the factory vent liners from Savage as well, with a phone call. It really depends on how much shooting that you plan to do....The RW vent liners perportedly last quite a bit longer, but again how much are you going to shoot? I have just stuck with the one hole factories, as I shoot maybe 50 rounds downrange all year.
You can also order the factory vent liners from Savage as well, with a phone call. It really depends on how much shooting that you plan to do....The RW vent liners perportedly last quite a bit longer, but again how much are you going to shoot? I have just stuck with the one hole factories, as I shoot maybe 50 rounds downrange all year.
Chap
06-01-2007 | 03:03 PM
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If you really want the best advice regarding specifics for powders Dougs Message Board is the place. There are guys there that have several savage ML's each, including .45 and .40 cal conversions and are nuts about knowing everything, so have all your answers. I love my sav, but invest little time in it, as I am satisfied with what I have gotten. By the way RW is on Dougs Message Board from time to time. 4759 is a popular powder as it is a reliable powder that is not temp sensitive, yet give you good fps performance. If you are looking for higher performance then you could go to 4198 or a duplex load.
06-01-2007 | 08:08 PM
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If you really want the best advice regarding specifics for powders Dougs Message Board is the place. There are guys there that have several savage ML's each, including .45 and .40 cal conversions and are nuts about knowing everything, so have all your answers. I love my sav, but invest little time in it, as I am satisfied with what I have gotten. By the way RW is on Dougs Message Board from time to time. 4759 is a popular powder as it is a reliable powder that is not temp sensitive, yet give you good fps performance. If you are looking for higher performance then you could go to 4198 or a duplex load.
If you really want the best advice regarding specifics for powders Dougs Message Board is the place. There are guys there that have several savage ML's each, including .45 and .40 cal conversions and are nuts about knowing everything, so have all your answers. I love my sav, but invest little time in it, as I am satisfied with what I have gotten. By the way RW is on Dougs Message Board from time to time. 4759 is a popular powder as it is a reliable powder that is not temp sensitive, yet give you good fps performance. If you are looking for higher performance then you could go to 4198 or a duplex load.
06-01-2007 | 09:12 PM
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RE: Savage 10 ML
Chap yes I had read rw's.
Below is some test made useing the 4759 with the old (in the metal cans) and the new (in the plastic jars) I had posted this on Dougs forum back when I did it.You should be able to do a search and find it there.A lot of the shooters are useing the new lot in the plastic jars and are haveing good results with groups.I am going to be useing it pretty soon because I am going to be out of the old soon,shouldn't be a problem have to match the load to the rifle anyhow.
The first chart is compareing the old that I had done before on a chrony and the new which was done on a pact.
The second is compareing the xtp (3 shot groups) with sst,s (only one shot per load)
You can also see some speeds useing the 4198,have shot up to 70 grs useing it.
Have shot up to 72 grs of 10x have gotten some really good groups but these loads will rattle your teeth.( And shatter lense in a scope)
Below is some test made useing the 4759 with the old (in the metal cans) and the new (in the plastic jars) I had posted this on Dougs forum back when I did it.You should be able to do a search and find it there.A lot of the shooters are useing the new lot in the plastic jars and are haveing good results with groups.I am going to be useing it pretty soon because I am going to be out of the old soon,shouldn't be a problem have to match the load to the rifle anyhow.
The first chart is compareing the old that I had done before on a chrony and the new which was done on a pact.
The second is compareing the xtp (3 shot groups) with sst,s (only one shot per load)
You can also see some speeds useing the 4198,have shot up to 70 grs useing it.
Have shot up to 72 grs of 10x have gotten some really good groups but these loads will rattle your teeth.( And shatter lense in a scope)
06-01-2007 | 09:16 PM
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Chap yes I had read rw's.
Below is some test made useing the 4759 with the old (in the metal cans) and the new (in the plastic jars) I had posted this on Dougs forum back when I did it.You should be able to do a search and find it there.A lot of the shooters are useing the new lot in the plastic jars and are haveing good results with groups.I am going to be useing it pretty soon because I am going to be out of the old soon,shouldn't be a problem have to match the load to the rifle anyhow.
The first chart is compareing the old that I had done before on a chrony and the new which was done on a pact.
The second is compareing the xtp (3 shot groups) with sst,s (only one shot per load)
You can also see some speeds useing the 4198,have shot up to 70 grs useing it.
Have shot up to 72 grs of 10x have gotten some really good groups but these loads will rattle your teeth.( And shatter lense in a scope)
Chap yes I had read rw's.
Below is some test made useing the 4759 with the old (in the metal cans) and the new (in the plastic jars) I had posted this on Dougs forum back when I did it.You should be able to do a search and find it there.A lot of the shooters are useing the new lot in the plastic jars and are haveing good results with groups.I am going to be useing it pretty soon because I am going to be out of the old soon,shouldn't be a problem have to match the load to the rifle anyhow.
The first chart is compareing the old that I had done before on a chrony and the new which was done on a pact.
The second is compareing the xtp (3 shot groups) with sst,s (only one shot per load)
You can also see some speeds useing the 4198,have shot up to 70 grs useing it.
Have shot up to 72 grs of 10x have gotten some really good groups but these loads will rattle your teeth.( And shatter lense in a scope)
06-02-2007 | 03:42 AM
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RE: Savage 10 ML
It sure has been fun too.I am going to have to put aside some of my reg
rifles and give the savage some attention.I sure have nelected the savage this year.
I have a knight 45 disc thats been sitting here since the first of the year to set up but everytime I think about it I think about haveing to clean it afterwards and just keep putting it off.With the savage its the price of bullets(its the same with reg bullets also was paying $17.99 for a box of sierra 168 match,ran out and stopped by gander mtn and a box there had gone up to $34.99)picked up a box of the sst 250 yesterday and they had gone up to $12 a box.
rifles and give the savage some attention.I sure have nelected the savage this year.
I have a knight 45 disc thats been sitting here since the first of the year to set up but everytime I think about it I think about haveing to clean it afterwards and just keep putting it off.With the savage its the price of bullets(its the same with reg bullets also was paying $17.99 for a box of sierra 168 match,ran out and stopped by gander mtn and a box there had gone up to $34.99)picked up a box of the sst 250 yesterday and they had gone up to $12 a box.
06-02-2007 | 10:54 AM
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RE: Savage 10 ML
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My best load is the IMR4759 (47.5 grs) 250 sst or sw.and win primers.This is a stout load and gives 2440 fps.I think a lot of fellows use this powder and 42 0r 43 grs and the 250 and 300.
My best load is the IMR4759 (47.5 grs) 250 sst or sw.and win primers.This is a stout load and gives 2440 fps.I think a lot of fellows use this powder and 42 0r 43 grs and the 250 and 300.
Next here is a TC Shockwave, with the sabot that comes with it, same load, same primer, no swabing, same yardage, cooling barrel with water between shots. Very difficult to load. Had to struggle to get it down the barrel, but I have never shot this good in my entire life, even at 50 yards, with any gun!
Chap