RE: See Thru Rings?
 

I am sure your post is in reference to my comment so you know what i think about see thrus so need to re-post my opinion;)!

I'dagree with a lower power variable if 3x causes you that much concern with close range shots.

I'd alsothird Cayugad's suggestion of a Warne QD bases and rings for mounting your scope. Warneare quality mounts (steel) andQD's are dandyon a ML.

RE: See Thru Rings?
 

Thanks for everyones responses, I wont even think anymore about getting these rings.

I appreciaite the feedback, the idea seemed like a good one in my head.

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if you were tracking deer in the snow where they may pop up like in MAINE or driving deer i would say the iron sights would be quicker. i think its all stock dependent. i couldnt figure out why on my remington 7600 30-06 rifle you could get by with either way. this set up of using see throughs on the 7600-s was made popular by the famous deer hunters the breniers who track big deer in the big woods on maine. i just looked over the buttstock on the 7600 and its because the buttstock has a cheek piece that ramps down. if you want to use the scope just slide your face back an inch or so and its higher so your in the scope. its a nice combo. my omega doesnt have a ramped cheek piece so its gonna get a medium set of rings for my 3x9x40.

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well, its personal choice really ,and what you get used to. just because someone says it right for them doesnt mean its right for everyone. the military trigicon scope has external iorn sights that go on the m-16 and other rifles that are curently used. noteworty is the predjudice against a second set of sights for that once in a lifetime shot that you might not be able to make if your scope is full of snow or fog or rain. guess theese folks only hunt on the good days. real hunters come prepared no matter what. i spend a coulple grand on a hunt and miss my one shot because i didnt spend the money on seethrough mounts.... dont think so

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I don't want to sound like the only guy that uses these but I have to admit I did use the see thru on a doe 2 years ago that got within 5 yards and I'm glad I had put them on the gun as all I had in the scope was a sea of brown fur. This past year I shot a doe at 70 yards with the scope and yea you need to raise your head etc., but with practice it comes natural. Do you hunt in areas that will require a long shot (100 yds or so)? If so I would not put on the see thrus but if a shot at 20 yds might be encountered you may need the see thrus. I hunt in both areas and that is why I have both on my guns as you never know. Your scope could fog up/crack etc and you still have the sights, and if you break a sight you still have the scope. If you break both then, well your on your own but hopefully that will never happen.

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Redclub your're right, see through rings are terrible! I HATE see through rings with a passion andhunt exclusively with scopes on all my rifles. Ihave never had a problem shooting up close with my rifle scopes.

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I have se thrus on all of my guns (BP, rifle, shotgun) and have never had a problem. I like the ability to use the open sights if I need to.

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I used to use them but the only reason I had the scope on there was to see if the deer had horns..lol...I always shot open sights..the scope was never even zeroed. I switched away from that many years ago and havent looked back.


No cheekweld=No hit!

RE: See Thru Rings?
 

I responded in an earlier post. Only u will know if the see thru's will work for u. I tried them and did not like them. I do shoot with both eyes open and I can shoot both left and right handed. A lot has to do with the lowest mag on your scope. That's why most scopes recommended for ML's are 1.2 or 2 power on the lowest setting. 3 power makes it hard to aqquire your target at close ranges.

What ever u chose good luck.

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"I brought up putting see thru rings on my next BP and recieved two mixed reviews on them on another thread. I have never used them and they seem like a good idea, it seems like about 25% of my shots on deer this season were within 20 yards.

I thought it would be nice to use both, but do these work well?"


They don't work well. There are two real problems with them:

A. Most are weak, and are easily bent off of alignment;
B. Most put the scope line of sight too high up off the stock comb, making target acquisition and steady holding alot harder. The scope is your primary sight. If you get a lot of shots at +-20 yards, use a variable scope with a low end of 1X to 2.5X, and mount it where it is supposed to be.

If you want the irons as an emergency backup for the scope, mount the scope withQD rings.....

The Germans are generally considered to be relatively intelligent people, and they build some of the world's best firearms. But, for some mysterious reason, they seem to regard their wonderful scope sights as an auxiliary rather than the primary sighting system, and put them so high up in the sky it almost requires a skyhook to hold them up. But in the three years I lived in Bavaria and hunted with a bunch of Germans, I never saw them use their iron sights! And, they generally had to practice contortionist skills to use their scopes! I did ask several of them "why??". "Because that's the way a rifle is supposed to be made!!"Homer Simpson Award to those guys!