I would think about a traditonal 50cal roundball shooter with 70gr FFG. If it must be an inline try using 60-70gr FFG and a 200gr Projectile.

im not sure what my encore weighs, but it does kick a lil bit with that load I killed a 9 point last year at 120 yards with that setup. I igured maybe dropping the powder charge quite abit, and shooting the same bullet might not be bad. can you tell alot of recoil difference between 90 grains of goex ffg compared to say 60 grains of goex ffg? Do they make any bullets lighter than 200 grain shockwaves? I shoot 200 grain shockwaves. I used to use hornady 240 xtp bullets, and I couldn't tell much if any differance between them.Does certain powders have less recoil than others? I hate for the scope to hit her in the face, and scare her from shooting a gun again! Thanks

I agree with you.. I would worry about the scope hitting her. Instead since the shooting will be close, get her a small Wolverine LK-II they have a short barrel and stock so the weight would not be too bad. They are very accurate. In fact you could shoot roundball out of them if you want. Just load 50 grains for starter. Then have her shoot and keep upping the charge. Have her tell you, when the recoil is too much. With open sights there is not the danger of the scope, and since she is shooting short range with young eyes, she should not have any problem working up some kind of a load.

The only reason I worry about getting too light a bullet is then you are loosing the benifit of the rifle. Another good rifle might be a White G Series Whitetail or Bison. They are a solid rifle, recoil is not bad, and they can shoot a conical bullet with deadly accuracy. I shoot 70 grains and a big conical, but I could just as well shoot 70 grains and a sabot projectile. Just another thought for you.

You will basically have to do one of two thing to lessen recoil.

1. light bullet , lighter charge

2. heavy bullet, even lighter charge

Basically recoil with be determined by the momentum of the bullet and powder. The momentum of the rifle will equal that. The lighter the rifle is, the greater the velocity the rifle recoils at. What you are trying to do, is lessen that velocity.

So it is also possible to lessen recoil by increasing the weight of the rifle. This would be no problem if the child is not required to carry it alot. But if you add weight try not to get the balance (justlike a teeter totter)behind the trigger guard.

Regarding the shockwave, it probably isn't the best choice for a light charge load. An xtp will probably give better expansion better serve the harvest. To 70 yards, a 70 grain charge ismore thansufficent to kill a deer cleanly with the 250 xtp , probably even 200 xtp.If you choose a heavier bullet, you can actually reduce charge, because muzzle energy, but more importantly, down range energy can still bemaintained on the lighter charge if a heavier bullet is chosen. An example of a load which will deliver in excess of 800 ft lbs to 75 yards is 50 grains 3F Goex and 385 GP conical (the recoil of this load is relatively mild, roughly 3/4 12 gauge shotgun's recoil).

A person is only going to get a hunting load's recoil down so much. I suggest you start her out on lighter loads than she will be hunting with. Have a good time at the range with her and increase charges in increments so that you can both observe and build her tolerance. It is very important she isn't bruised on the first shot. To take a hit after the confidence and enjoyment has risen and fear has subsided usually gets shrugged off. This thread suggests some low recoil loads which could be considered introductory. http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=1863067&mpage=1&key=daughter&amp ;#1863934

Good luck with it and congratulations on your new shootin and huntin partner.