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desertloper 12-16-2006 06:22 PM

Missed! Now I cannot pull the charge help!
 
I am not in a good mood-
missed a 5x5 at 100 yds tonight

To top that-I am trying to clean and cannot push the sabot through the breech-any tips?

sabotloader 12-16-2006 06:32 PM

RE: Missed! Now I cannot pull the charge help!
 
desertloper

I forgot what kind of gun you have butthat is a little strange... but then there are a lot of things I do not know...In the Omega mine get caught on the threads but eventually come out.

My suggestion would them be to push it out the muzzle. You have to use a small diameter rod so that you do not flare the the sabot (is it a sabot). Has the powder fell out? I use a 1/4" hardwood dowel, but yourange rod will work. Do not try it with the jag on though...

If it doesn't slide up easy pour some hat water from the muzzle down onto it wait a couple of minutes then push it out....

Just had another possible explaination, can you see the projectile at the top of the threads or is it up the barrel a bit... The reason I ask could it be stuck on the "crud ring' from the previous shot....????

frontier gander 12-16-2006 06:34 PM

RE: Missed! Now I cannot pull the charge help!
 
try spraying some wd-40 down the bore and let it sit and then push. May have to push it back out the way you put it in. I once got a great plains bullet stuck due to crappy powder and had to use my spare ramrod and a rubber mallet to get it out.

desertloper 12-16-2006 06:41 PM

RE: Missed! Now I cannot pull the charge help!
 
Sorry I probably could have put some more info in the thread
50 cal Omega Super Glide Sabot
powder is out and sabot is sitting on threads-stuck like ****
can't push eitherway

I pulled a load the other night no problem-it was tight but it came out -Ill try some more

frontier gander 12-16-2006 06:49 PM

RE: Missed! Now I cannot pull the charge help!
 
Time to unite Mr hammer with Mrs. Ramrod and punch it out.

desertloper 12-16-2006 06:50 PM

RE: Missed! Now I cannot pull the charge help!
 
Well I just got it out- Hot h20 worked good-smashed the crap out of my hand though-just chalk that up on my great night

I can't believe it 130 class buck 100yds clean miss, charge stuck in rifle, bleeding wrist from front sight post-gotta love deer season!

desertloper 12-16-2006 06:52 PM

RE: Missed! Now I cannot pull the charge help!
 
oh yeah forgot-then when the bullet finally gave and i hit my wrist on the sight post the T-handle came off and fell into m sink of dirty dishes-4 new primers underwater!

Underclocked 12-16-2006 06:54 PM

RE: Missed! Now I cannot pull the charge help!
 
we all have 'em ;)

sabotloader 12-16-2006 06:55 PM

RE: Missed! Now I cannot pull the charge help!
 
desertloper

Well after that you no tomorrow will be great... You can not have two of those days....

frontier gander 12-16-2006 06:56 PM

RE: Missed! Now I cannot pull the charge help!
 
Good that you got it out. A miss always sucks but hopefully you'll have better luck next time out there and get him. 5x5 mule deer or whitetail? I know the feeling of a cut wrist due to a sharp sight, happened to me a few times on my flintlock. A lot less painful than slamming your thumb in a door jam on a 59 chevy apache though :D. Now all u have to do it give it a good cleaning.

desertloper 12-16-2006 07:07 PM

RE: Missed! Now I cannot pull the charge help!
 
It was a whitetail in the trees along a river. only had a 5 foot wide shooting lane where he was at
I barked to get him to stop in the lane-he did but turned and faced me instead of giving me a broadside
I have been second guessing everything a 1000 times-probably should have bleated and grunted to get him to investigate but the does he was with kept moving and this was my only chance at a shot
In nebraska we can't use powered objectives so I was iron sights still should have been a easy shot
My hypothesis is that the round was a floater-a few trips to the range after cleaning the rifle good before hand the first shot often hits a little high-may be that was it-I don't know
I killed a doe last week with the same rifle-on the first shot off ofa clean bore and it killed her dead enough

like I said before-its called hunting-not killing, for a reason

lemoyne 12-16-2006 08:31 PM

RE: Missed! Now I cannot pull the charge help!
 
I had one of those days too,14 point walked up behind me 35yds and scented me before he got to where I could get a shot after hunting in the rain all morning I am hacking and coffing and there are only two days of muzzle loader season left and I still have one tag unfilled. Lee

Derag2 12-16-2006 08:50 PM

RE: Missed! Now I cannot pull the charge help!
 
What do you mean we can't use powered objectives??????? You can use any single power scope or a single power reddot..........

but sorry tohear about your troubles...

desertloper 12-16-2006 10:18 PM

RE: Missed! Now I cannot pull the charge help!
 
Yeah-I was referring to greater than 1x, didn't really come out that way-where are you at? I'm in Kearney-tired of working the Platte River, going back to Alliance for Christmas then going after some Sand Hills mulies-may be better luck out west

rks1949 12-17-2006 05:14 AM

RE: Missed! Now I cannot pull the charge help!
 
Sounds like all your troubles are behind you now. Tomorrow will be a diffrent story. I've had hunts start out terrible,only to turn out to be the best hunts I've been on later,your luck will change!:D

tkstae 12-17-2006 08:14 AM

RE: Missed! Now I cannot pull the charge help!
 
Well you'll be happy to know that we all have those kind of days once in awhile. In my case it seems that if I can shake it off, and head back out the next day something good always happens. Best of luck to you.

sproulman 12-17-2006 06:32 PM

RE: Missed! Now I cannot pull the charge help!
 
i only hunt bucks here in pa..i cant count on my fingers how many i missed or was waiting for great shot,only to lose them..i bet over 40 in 42 years at it..

i only shoot a buck behind shoulder or in neck..if not, buck walks..many have walked..bigones too..

the one i shot first day here in pa. was 8 point with 21 inch spread..he walked by me at 20 ft, yes 20ft and all i could see was that big rack above laural,you have to count points now,3 to sideand about 10 inchs of his back.then he disappeared, i said, well sproul, you lost another one,ha ha..

then 20 yds away, he turned and came right in front of me..when i aimed behind shoulder as neck was covered, he was ready to run..he had his right leg up,and i shot..50cal hawkins flintlock,80 grs of2f geox,295 powerbelt,bore button,rmc v-peep..

so, i guess you can say we all had those days with gun but most of mine were from letting deer go do to my principal of shooting a deer where i have indicated..

i never get excited even if its biggest buck in world..why, because i was forunate to grow up in one of the best deer familys in area, my dad had me in woods all time..

i lost that fever at 16..this is why i use a muzzleloader with open sights..its too easy for me to get buck with high powered rifle..ikilled many with 250-3000 sav..it has to be challenge or i will quit..

muzzleloader has been my challenge for long time,even with bad eyes i still use open sights..

sorry i got off track..you may have got buck fever and with muzzleoader, does not take much to miss..it happens to us..good luck..


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