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drh1175 11-13-2006 09:09 AM

CVA Kodiak
 
I am looking at a muzzleloader. I want a TC omega however I don't have the funds. So I was going to settle for the kodiak by CVA what is your opinion on them. From holding them and looking at them I couldn't tell the difference to the TC actually. And .50 or .45 for MN deer.

cayugad 11-13-2006 10:44 AM

RE: CVA Kodiak
 
I wouldn't try to talk you out of the Kodak especially with funds being tight. I've been in that boat myself. Although if you could wait, I think you might be able to find a Omega later on in some of the sales for as good a price as you might have to give for the Kodak.

As for the caliber get the .50 caliber. You're going to have better luck with that caliber. Some of the .45 calibers were hard to tune in. And there is nothing a .45 can do that a .50 can not match or do better.

1970Ranger 11-13-2006 01:34 PM

RE: CVA Kodiak
 
I am in the same boat you are. Have you looked at the Omega Z5? Bass-pro is selling them for $300 with the starter kit and is throwing in a hard sided case. A really nicedeal on a super gun. I don't know how much the Kodiak is that you are looking at, but you really can't beat that deal on the Z5. Not trying to push the Z5 over the Kodiak, because ittoo is a goodd gun,and I don't knowhow tight funds are for youright now, but I have to agree with cayugad, becausein the long run you might be happier with the Omega if you just save up money now and purchase later. (That's what I am doing right now, I really want that Omega)

Good luck though, hopefully everything works out for you.

outdoorslover 11-13-2006 02:17 PM

RE: CVA Kodiak
 
I'm with these guys. I was gonna settle for the Kodiak but now I'm gonna wait for enough to buy the Omega. It's definetely worth the extra money.

Wolf651 11-13-2006 02:39 PM

RE: CVA Kodiak
 
I have a 50cal. kodiak mag. in nickle/black. It's a great shooting muzzy for sure. I get some good groups up to 100 yards and that is about as far as I can shoot and see a deer in my neck of the woods. I've put hundreds of shot throught it to see what it likes and nothing has gone wrong for me, as matter of fact I haven't even had a misfire yet and this is my first muzzleloader gun and first year hunting with a muzzleloader. Asfor saving money for a TC, a gun isonly goodin the eye of the beholder. What is good for someone, might not be good for you. You can't go wrong with either gun. Oh by the way, get the 50cal. there's nothing a 45cal can do that a 50cal can't do and it's bigger too:D.

Big Ol Gobbler 11-13-2006 02:58 PM

RE: CVA Kodiak
 
I have a Kodiak... shoots 1-1 1/2" groups at 50 yards through a 1x Red Dot scope. I had a very limited budget also and felt it was a decent gun for the money... I paid $148 using my points at Cabala's. They still have the blue barrel/black stock on sale for $189. $166 at www.budsgunshop.com. Whatever you decide, I hope you have a safe and successful season.

kdsberman 11-13-2006 08:11 PM

RE: CVA Kodiak
 
Kodiak is a great gun, go for it.

cornking68 11-13-2006 09:47 PM

RE: CVA Kodiak
 
I too shoot a CVA Kodiak Pro Mag with a SS barrel and black fleck composite stock that i purchased last fall, then i discovered this site that i really enjoy. From all the talkon hereI felt like maybe i made a mistake by going with the Kodiak, but I have come to love the way it handles and shoots. This fall I topped it with a Burris Fulfield II that I decided on with some help from theguys here. My Kodiak shoots 110 grain T7 pellets and HornadyXTP 240's sub 2 inch groups @ 100 yds. which is good for me. This site didalso educate me on the dangers of shooting 150 grains of pelletsthrough this gunwhich I would not have known had it not been for the great folks on this site.Whatever you decide I hope you enjoy shooting your new mz as much as i do.

frontier gander 11-13-2006 10:24 PM

RE: CVA Kodiak
 
You can shoot 150 grain pellet loads with up to a 348 grain bullet. Most rifles just dont shoot well with the mag loads. CVA also says you can shoot up to 130 grains loose powder with up to a 348 grain bullet safely. Ive shot hundreds of 150 mag loads through my BPI with no issues other than uncomfortable recoil. A lot of people are still stuck with the cva apollo and therefore, call BPI products junk due to one bad egg.

drh1175 11-14-2006 09:08 AM

RE: CVA Kodiak
 
Gander Mountain here in MN has the kodaik Nickel composite on sale with the starters kit for $229.00 I can get the gun only in TC for $269.00 so I think if I can swing it the Kodiak is the no brainer here. Thanks.

Catus Magnus 11-14-2006 09:31 AM

RE: CVA Kodiak
 
Get the .50 cal. A kodiak looks fine to me, I've never shot one. CVA's low-end rifles work just fine, they'll kill deer. Use 90gr powder and a 240-300gr sabot, and you'll kill deer if you hit them. TC's 'Cheapshot' is an accurate & inexpensive sabot, and effective on deer.

kodiakemt414 11-14-2006 11:45 AM

RE: CVA Kodiak
 
I love my kodiak. The TC cheap shots are REALLY tight in mine, just so you know.

salukidawg 11-14-2006 12:11 PM

RE: CVA Kodiak
 
Helped a friend sight in his cva Wolf this past weekend. It took 20 shots to get it dialed in. I was really impressed with the gun. Got it down to 2 in at 100 yrds. This was using 250 shockwaves and 100 grain of T7 pellets. Could have tweaked it more with loose but he said it was good enough. CVA makes good guns. Dont let anyone tell you different.

ks8674 11-15-2006 05:01 PM

RE: CVA Kodiak
 
Be careful of the kodiak, I bought one last year and had a problem with the firing pin being offset from the center of the primer. This caused the gun to misfire about 50% of the time. When it did fire I will say it was an acurate gun. I took the gun to my gunsmith he said that he could fix it but, he would have to shim it to make it line up. He said the best option would be to bring the gun back or call the manufacter. I called CVA about the problem and had some of the worst customer service of all time!Over the phone Iexplained the problem to CVA, they said it was a common problem and that I should send the gun to them and they would repair or replace it. When I asked if they were going to pay for the shipping she said they would only pay for the return shipping on the gun. I told her that I shouldn't have to pay shipping on a broken gun, her reply was that the problem wasn't their fault, they had subcontracted the building of the Kodiak gun out to a company in Brazil and the quality control there isn't so good. What the hell is that????? What kind of company knowingly allows sub-grade guns to be sold?? I told her that I was going to bring the gun back to Gander Mountain and purchase a new gun from a manufacture that had good quality control!

I took back the Kodiak and got a tc omega!! Great gun that always fires and is a tackdriver! It is more money but well worth the piece of mind that it will fire 100% of the time!

coyote170 11-15-2006 06:34 PM

RE: CVA Kodiak
 
Love my Kodiak,fits and feels real good now!:)

Doegirl75 11-15-2006 07:44 PM

RE: CVA Kodiak
 
dr1175: Just wondering, would you consider a sidelock, percussion rifle? You can get a good quality used one at a decent price. I paid $175 for my white mountain carbine over the internet and it was in perfect shape and it's a heck of a shooter, too.

Doegirl75 11-15-2006 07:54 PM

RE: CVA Kodiak
 

ORIGINAL: ks8674

Be careful of the kodiak, I bought one last year and had a problem with the firing pin being offset from the center of the primer. This caused the gun to misfire about 50% of the time. When it did fire I will say it was an acurate gun. I took the gun to my gunsmith he said that he could fix it but, he would have to shim it to make it line up. He said the best option would be to bring the gun back or call the manufacter. I called CVA about the problem and had some of the worst customer service of all time!Over the phone Iexplained the problem to CVA, they said it was a common problem and that I should send the gun to them and they would repair or replace it. When I asked if they were going to pay for the shipping she said they would only pay for the return shipping on the gun. I told her that I shouldn't have to pay shipping on a broken gun, her reply was that the problem wasn't their fault, they had subcontracted the building of the Kodiak gun out to a company in Brazil and the quality control there isn't so good. What the hell is that????? What kind of company knowingly allows sub-grade guns to be sold?? I told her that I was going to bring the gun back to Gander Mountain and purchase a new gun from a manufacture that had good quality control!

I took back the Kodiak and got a tc omega!! Great gun that always fires and is a tackdriver! It is more money but well worth the piece of mind that it will fire 100% of the time!
I, too had a negative experience with the Kodiak. Mine was a .45. 45's are notoriously persnickety, but there was something terribly wrong this gun's barrel. It was off by FEET. Tried two different scopes, iron sights, changed powder, changed projectiles multiple times, problem still there. Got fed up, took the rifle back, my money was refunded and I walked out the store with an Encore. 9 shots later at the range I was sight in. I'm not saying you need to unload 600-700 bucks to get a decent muzzleloader. But do be careful with the Kodiak. If it gives you any problems TAKE IT BACK. I trully hope you end up with a trouble free, tackdriver.


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