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Old 11-01-2006 | 07:22 AM
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Some of you said that you prefer the 240 bullet over the 295.

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Does the lighter bullet240 have as much knock down power as the 295??

If you shot both the 240 and 295 with the same powder load..would the 240 go flatter and farther before dropping??

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Old 11-01-2006 | 08:17 AM
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They are talking a different kind of animal also. The 295 grain powerbelt runs .499-.500 in diameter. The 240 grain XTP (I am guessing that is what they are talking about) is a .430 or .452 diameter. The 295 grain powerbelt with 2 pyrodex pellets shoots 1555 fps. The 240 grain XTP with two pellets runs 1801 fps. So yes the 240 grain being faster and lighter should shoot flatter then the 295 grain. As for energy, I do not know the BC of a 295 grain powerbelt so I can not run the Ballistics on that. They should be pretty close in both respects. We're talking deer here, I'd shoot what ever your rifle shoot the most accurate. Both are going to work if you do your part and put that in the right place.


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Old 11-01-2006 | 09:34 AM
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In this sport when a vast majority of harvests occur within 100 yards & we are only allowed one shot before reloading -- plus the price of the bullet is the same no matter how big or small it is, -- well when you add it all up......bigger is better!!!!!!

I think your grain sizes listed are wrong. You probably are asking about Powerbelts - which are 245 and 295 grains.

It is of my opinion that the best overall Powerbelt for fast twist inlines are the 348gr - followed by the 405gr.


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Old 11-01-2006 | 10:26 AM
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Thanks men,
And yes..they are the power belts. Thanks...the comment about knock down power within 100yds makes alot of sense to me. For this weekend I'll be staying with the 150 grains of powder and the 295 power belts. However ; after this weekend I'll try some other loads.
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Old 11-01-2006 | 10:54 AM
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They are talking a different kind of animal also. The 295 grain powerbelt runs .499-.500 in diameter. The 240 grain XTP (I am guessing that is what they are talking about) is a .430 or .452 diameter. The 295 grain powerbelt with 2 pyrodex pellets shoots 1555 fps. The 240 grain XTP with two pellets runs 1801 fps. So yes the 240 grain being faster and lighter should shoot flatter then the 295 grain. As for energy, I do not know the BC of a 295 grain powerbelt so I can not run the Ballistics on that. They should be pretty close in both respects. We're talking deer here, I'd shoot what ever your rifle shoot the most accurate. Both are going to work if you do your part and put that in the right place.

Agreed, 250gr class for me has always worked for deer in my inlines and see no reason to go higher. What I shoot is based on accuracy and of course confidence. The 240 xtp has accounted for highest # ofdeer shot with in an inline ML. I have taken deer with 460 conical, 300 xtp, 300 barnes and 250 SST as well.
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Old 11-01-2006 | 11:06 AM
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Thanks men,
And yes..they are the power belts. Thanks...the comment about knock down power within 100yds makes alot of sense to me. For this weekend I'll be staying with the 150 grains of powder and the 295 power belts. However ; after this weekend I'll try some other loads.
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Hi Chuck7,

Thats alot of powder under a 295 PB. You need to be ready for the bullet to shred with so much powder. Certainly not a problem for a double lung shot but others have complained (i suspect maybe shoulder shots?). Interestingly, most report pass-thru's when using 100 grains or less.

If flat trajectory is the objective for more range, I would use ajacketed bullet (ie an xtyp) if sabots are legal where you hunt, that is, if you intend to use 150 grains of powder. Bullet will hold together much better fer ya.



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Old 11-01-2006 | 12:25 PM
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WOW I' getting alot of knowledge here and wisdom here men.
So shoooting with a ML is similiar ot an arrow then,,if your seeking a double lung shot. ..not like my 30-30 hollow points. So the bullet simply breaks bones or makes holes.
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What do you mean when you say the 295 bullet under 150 grains of powder may shred ?

I'm goingto the range in 1 1/2 hours. If you guys think the 150 powder is unappropriate I will switch to 100 grains since I'm sighting it a fresh anyways,I 've only got 295 Power belts on me.
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Old 11-01-2006 | 12:59 PM
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Its not going to shred. i dont know where some of these people come up with stuff. Ive shot 2 deer with the 150 grain load and the 245 and 295 powerbelts and they worked perfectly. Although i get the best accuracy with 120 grains loose pyrodex RS. both of those deer were taken just under 150 yards and both dropped. Go for the a double lung shot, thats one of the best shots to drop them. Both of my deer had pass thru shots.
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Old 11-01-2006 | 01:10 PM
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LOL This is like the other sites..a few variations with the answers. That's ok though ...I love the fellowship. Actually another teacher here who is a gun expert said the same thing...the bullet wil not shred. But not trying to cut anyone down.I enjoy all the comments.

I do need one of those limb savers though. I 'll post my shot groups later.
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Old 11-01-2006 | 01:10 PM
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I am more convinced now, than ever before, that the most important thing is... hit the right spot. All else secondary, just fun to talk about.

Here's the deal on powerbelts: being full bore, they're inefficient relative to sabots. Comparing a 295gr .500 dia. PB to a 300gr .430 or .452 sabot bullet... the sabot will be flatter in trajectory, and so hit harder, than the PB, assuming both starting at same velocity. The further out you get, the bigger advantage to the sub-caliber sabot. Some say PB over-expand when going fast. I've only killed one deer with PB - a little doe at about twenty yrds, using 100gr Pyro pellets - and it blew threw a shoulder with no problem.

I think sabots offer better performance, though, esp. for the dollar. But again... mostly matters that you hit them right, as we all know.
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