i found this some time ago when i ordered my kentucky from them. For all those who want a good starter muzzleloader, check out the cva's! You can get them from $149 on up. As for the tc's/ white and savage muzzleloaders, I still couldnt find myself paying that kind of price. But check out the website.

I think I am missing something like what is the website?

SaskBushMan I am glad you mentioned that as I too was at a loss.

I found one with CVAs priced less than $149.

http://www.frogcreek.net/cgi/store/scan/st=db/tf=company/tf=category/co=yes/sf=category/se=Rifles/sf=prod_group/se=Black%20Powder/va=banner_image=/va=banner_text=.html?id=9WcBFcSc

Dumb forum was screwed up lastnight and i guess it didnt put the website in. But here it is: http://www.tjgeneralstore.com/blackpow.htm And incase that dont show up.

www.tjgeneralstore.com

[align=center]THIS MESSAGEBOARD NEEDS A REAL COMPUTER TECHNICIAN....
[/align]....... to fix all the page errors and slow posting sending. Heck.. there's even times when the reply box won't even come up & my posts just disappear into thin cyberspace air of oblivion.

Will someone/administrators here at Hunting.net please fix these boards???

no kidding. Ive typed up long messages and i hit enter and i get some BS about my java needing to be turned on. Im like WTF?!! it worked 2 minutes ago! Most of the time this website takes between 2 and 3 minutes to load one topic! You know the little box with peoples pictures? Theres a red X threw all of them. Then the reply with quote is no where to be found lol. They need to get their ass on the ball and get this fixed before i get pissed off and find another forum. When i first got on here you just click the mouse button and BOOM! your there on the post in a matter of seconds. They ALWAYS have to update something cute and screw up the entire thing. Oh well. Good site by the way triple 7. The only thing i didnt like was they didnt offer stainless steel and camo stocks. It was pretty much the low grade stuff. Which is my favorite! lol but i do prefer a stainless steel barrel.

I tried to quote and that didn't work, I tried to reply and that didn't work now I am sending a quick message and that seems to be working. I second or third or whatever that this site is becoming too much of a drag in time required to load and make posts. I think even though I like the people on this site I am going to stay off as it is too much trouble to try making it work. I will stay with Graybeard and a couple of others. Sorry but until they clean up this mess I have better things to do with my time.

I'm not sure if you guys are paying something for this site, but I'm not. I certainly have been having problems with it lately, but I don't think it is appropriate to bash it the way you are doing here. Nobody is forcing me to come here either.

If I was paying for advertising on the site, I would probably be complaining, but not on the public forum, that's not right.

I assume the folks that run the site are well aware of the problems and are working to get them corrected. If it really had my shorts in a bunch, I would try to contact one of the administrators to get a status, or just not visit the site for awhile.

Anyway, that's how I FEEL about it, but I am probably just misinformed.

You are misassumed & misinformed -- that's for sure! Some of us have taken steps to correct this in recent past. We are here because we like it here & will keep mentioning our posting concerns -- despite your idiotic assumptions after-the-fact.

You seem to have something negative to say in every thread discussion here. Please... just go away! Go find another messageboard to show your anger. You're not Cascadedad.... you are Grumpydad.

Go find some happiness somewhere! When you find it - stay there!