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nysbowhunter 07-11-2006 02:27 PM

mink oil as a patch lube for round balls?
 
Has anyone tried this? Track of the wolf sells it and I guess it wouldnt freeze to the bore, I have had bore butter freeze and become almost impossible to load and really tough on the shoulder when Ive cleared the barrell at the end of the day. I dont think i would use it on a warm day because it would melt, but in the stuff i hunt in it might be what I need.

cayugad 07-11-2006 02:38 PM

RE: mink oil as a patch lube for round balls?
 
I bought a can of Track of the Wolf's mink oil which I used as a patch lube. It works all right, but it works better as a boot grease. The best patch lube I found is moosemilk. Since there is witch hazel and alcohol in the mixture the moose milk does not seem to freeze. I've used it in our winters with no problem and the accuracy with it is exceptional. It is cheaper to make and use then mink oil also. All the stuff can be purchased at your local Wal Mart.



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Liquid Lube - Moose Milk[/b]
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8 ounces of isopropyl alcohol
3 ounces of Castor Oil
4 ounces of Witch Hazel
16 ounces of tap water
1 ounce of Murphy’s Oil Soap

(make sure you mix the ingredients in the exact order they are listed)

I buy a yard of material of 100% cotton blue strip pillow tick at the local wal mart. I wash that in the washing machine. I then line dry the material. After that you can tear the strip real easy off that bolt of material. I like to tear off an inch and a half. Then you soak that strip in moose milk. Ring the excess moose milk out. Then I lay that on an old window screen in the sun and let it dry. This is a dry patch . If you like a more wet patch, you can spritz them with a spritzer bottle.

Triple Se7en 07-12-2006 10:05 AM

RE: mink oil as a patch lube for round balls?
 
This is the best patch lube in the whole wide-world.It's $1.99 cost will cover thousands of patches. The best part about this stuff is that it the weakest of all hand cleaners -- It's silky-smooth with no grit/pumus -- even contains some lanolin - so it won't harm your bore & provides a dual role as a bore cleaner.

http://housewares.hardwarestore.com/35-176-hand-cleaners/permatex-hand-cleaner-306308.aspx



cayugad 07-12-2006 10:32 AM

RE: mink oil as a patch lube for round balls?
 
And how does it work as a hand cleaner? :D

BS 07-12-2006 11:03 AM

RE: mink oil as a patch lube for round balls?
 

ORIGINAL: Triple Se7en

This is the best patch lube in the whole wide-world.It's $1.99 cost will cover thousands of patches. The best part about this stuff is that it the weakest of all hand cleaners -- It's silky-smooth with no grit/pumus -- even contains some lanolin - so it won't harm your bore & provides a dual role as a bore cleaner.

http://housewares.hardwarestore.com/35-176-hand-cleaners/permatex-hand-cleaner-306308.aspx


I have tried it..............my barrels don't like it............but yours may...........what works for me doesn't for you, one of the KOOL things about black powder arms!

edit:
I did just wash some of Stump's Moose Milk off my hands with it!:)

cayugad 07-12-2006 11:15 AM

RE: mink oil as a patch lube for round balls?
 
I will state, Stumpkiller's Moose Milk recipe that I posted above really has to be one of the best lubes I've every used. I used to make it a little different then Stumpkiller made. I used to make it with water soluable cutting oil I would by through NAPA Auto Parts. And that moose milk works just as good as Stumpkiller's does. But I ran out of the cutting oil one day and made a half gallon of the Castor oil mix and have been shooting that ever since.

Like many, I am always open to new ideas and products. The thinking with Triple Se7en's suggestion is maybe by using that stuff if it works, at the end of the day my fingers would not be so filthy from powder, lubes and what nots... :D

Triple Se7en 07-12-2006 11:26 AM

RE: mink oil as a patch lube for round balls?
 

ORIGINAL: BS

http://housewares.hardwarestore.com/35-176-hand-cleaners/permatex-hand-cleaner-306308.aspx

I have tried it..............my barrels don't like it............but yours may...........what works for me doesn't for you, one of the KOOL things about black powder arms!
I did just wash some of Stump's Moose Milk off my hands with it!:)
What was your problem with it? Just saying it doesn't work is not a reply-answer.

I like the Stumpy recipe above. I only question the bore-wall stickiness associated with it.... in comparison to the Permatex -- which has no stickiness.

Of several posters who I turned-on to Permatex, not (1) has come back with a reply such as yours. All range reports have been quite favorable.

BS 07-12-2006 11:33 AM

RE: mink oil as a patch lube for round balls?
 
cayugad,

Wher you using the same recipe as Stumpy's only with water soluable oil or just mixing it with water?

Thanks,
Bruce

Triple Se7en 07-12-2006 11:34 AM

RE: mink oil as a patch lube for round balls?
 

ORIGINAL: BS

cayugad,

Wher you using the same recipe as Stumpy's only with water soluable oil or just mixing it with water?

Thanks,
Bruce
Avoiding me/my question???

BS 07-12-2006 11:36 AM

RE: mink oil as a patch lube for round balls?
 

ORIGINAL: Triple Se7en


ORIGINAL: BS

http://housewares.hardwarestore.com/35-176-hand-cleaners/permatex-hand-cleaner-306308.aspx

I have tried it..............my barrels don't like it............but yours may...........what works for me doesn't for you, one of the KOOL things about black powder arms!
I did just wash some of Stump's Moose Milk off my hands with it!:)
What was your problem with it? Just saying it doesn't work is not a reply-answer.

I like the Stumpy recipe above. I only question the bore-wall stickiness associated with it.... in comparison to the Permatex -- which has no stickiness.

Of several posters who I turned-on to Permatex, not (1) has come back with a reply such as yours. All range reports have been quite favorable.
I shoot tight patch and ball combos, and my barrels just don't shoot it well. As stated, a looser combo may.

cayugad 07-12-2006 11:53 AM

RE: mink oil as a patch lube for round balls?
 
We will see how the hand cleaner works there Triple Se7en. I ordered four cans to make the whole thing worth ordering. I figure it is hand cleaner after all...so I got nothing to loose. Besides, you never advised me wrong yet on products...:D

Triple Se7en 07-12-2006 11:54 AM

RE: mink oil as a patch lube for round balls?
 

ORIGINAL: BS

I shoot tight patch and ball combos, and my barrels just don't shoot it well. As stated, a looser combo may.
Your loading may be needlessly tight due to the bore-wall stickiness associated with your lube.

How long have you known Stumpy? When you mentioned finding Permatex faults with more than one barrel, a red flag was raised by me.

I'm done here -- only because I suspect a lie or two. Saying you had inaccuracies in all your barrels said enough for me to just walk-away from here.

See-ya

cayugad 07-12-2006 12:05 PM

RE: mink oil as a patch lube for round balls?
 

ORIGINAL: BS

cayugad,

Wher you using the same recipe as Stumpy's only with water soluable oil or just mixing it with water?

Thanks,
Bruce
Almost the same, except no Witch Hazel or Murphy's Oil Soap. It actually works real good.

Hunter John 07-12-2006 03:16 PM

RE: mink oil as a patch lube for round balls?
 
Question for t7 (or anyone else): Does the hand cleaner have to be "Permatex" or can it be another brand?:eek::eek: Never realized there are different strengths of hand cleaner.

When I noticed in another thread your hand cleaner suggestion, I rushed right out to Wally's World and bought a container of it....however, I didn't pay attention to the brand. Can't remember the brand off hand.

I guess the worst thing in the world is that I blew $1.25.:D:D

BS 07-12-2006 03:29 PM

RE: mink oil as a patch lube for round balls?
 
I read where someone uses GO-JO hand cleaner.

cayugad 07-12-2006 03:57 PM

RE: mink oil as a patch lube for round balls?
 
Don't some hand cleaners actually have small grit of pumas stone in them? I would avoid any grit type hand cleaner (even though I have not used it yet) simply as it will eventually cause wear in the bore. Although if you have a tight bore, that might not be all bad..:D

BS 07-12-2006 06:40 PM

RE: mink oil as a patch lube for round balls?
 
4 cans, hope it works for you:)..........it makes nice hand cleaner for me.

You wouldn't want pumas [sp] in yor lube.[:'(]

sproulman 07-12-2006 08:25 PM

RE: mink oil as a patch lube for round balls?
 

ORIGINAL: cayugad

Don't some hand cleaners actually have small grit of pumas stone in them? I would avoid any grit type hand cleaner (even though I have not used it yet) simply as it will eventually cause wear in the bore. Although if you have a tight bore, that might not be all bad..:D
some do, its called PUMAS. i dont think the ones with lanolin and is like a cream have that pumas in it .i dont think it would matter whathand cleaning cream as long as it does not have that pumas in it. i would buy only a cleaner that does not smell.you dont want a cologne smell in woods from it.t7 does come up with good ideas.i wonder if it freezes in winter,i dont think so.

Pglasgow 07-12-2006 08:51 PM

RE: mink oil as a patch lube for round balls?
 

ORIGINAL: sproulman
t7 does come up with good ideas.i wonder if it freezes in winter,i dont think so.
In the 80s, I contracted services in the oilpatch and was in the field every day for 6 1/2 years, literally almost everyday. I left the lanoline hand-cleaners in the bed of my truck. I don't recall them freezing, but in the summer they would kinda liquify in high heat. They still cleaned fine and had a greasy ( i guess from the lanolin) feel. I used go-jo and some other brand which was cheaper. I just can't remember it freezing.

Happy Hunting, Phil

sproulman 07-13-2006 08:40 PM

RE: mink oil as a patch lube for round balls?
 

ORIGINAL: Pglasgow


ORIGINAL: sproulman
t7 does come up with good ideas.i wonder if it freezes in winter,i dont think so.
In the 80s, I contracted services in the oilpatch and was in the field every day for 6 1/2 years, literally almost everyday. I left the lanoline hand-cleaners in the bed of my truck. I don't recall them freezing, but in the summer they would kinda liquify in high heat. They still cleaned fine and had a greasy ( i guess from the lanolin) feel. I used go-jo and some other brand which was cheaper. I just can't remember it freezing.

Happy Hunting, Phil
thanks for info.i was in basement today, i have 2 big cans of it from 30 years ago, still good.it sounds good, t7 has real good info. i like idea of it cleaning the bore a little each shot too. sounds real good., good bye bore butter in winter, bring on handcleaner


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