Yes, or it's not all coming out.

Bestexample I can give is leftover breakfast egg residue on a plate.
You hold that plate under cold or even tepid water and the egg residue remains stuck to the surface of the plate.
You change that to fulkl "hot" water, and in seconds it completely melts and slides right off the plate.

I've used noting but NL1000 and steaming hot soapy water ewithy hot water rinse for 15+ years...bores are as perfect today as they were when I bought them.

The three steps to cleaning and lubing a muzzleloaderbore must be done completely.....the bore MUST be:
1)100% cleaned;
2)100% bone dried;
3)100% lubed to insulate it from contact with the air;

If all three steps are done to the 100% level, it cannot rust, period.
If anyof those stepsare done less than 100%, therewill most likely be rust.

it was rust.you could see it near muzzle and i put my small finger in barrel .only got it with boiling water.

Isn't this wierd how some of us get alot of rust using bore butter but other get none at all? I am going to go check my bore and I will post what I see later today.

only time i saw rust using bore butter was when i use hot water.i run patch in and it comes out but i saw rust in bore after hot bath.

I own a tube of bore butter because it was on clearance at Walmart but I've never opened it. My omega is stainless and I shoot only sabots. I have not been convinced that this setup needs a greasy product for protection. I clean with boiling water, alcohol, and when dry I protect it with breakfree CPL. I haven't been at it long but so far no problems. From what I gather bore butter is messy and I don't want to have to remove something like this from my barrel before shooting. It just doesn't make sense to me. If I shot round balls/conicals I would use it for loading...maybe that's why I hold onto it.

gopherfan

Sharp Shooter,

Now you've got me checking some old guns I don't shoot that often..LOL, they are fine.

As far as why some get brown patches and others don't, I can only speculate that it's in the preceedure being used or some environmental issue. Like everything else in this game, whatever one uses that works is what they shouldstay with.

I have a .54Lyman GPR and while it's 32" bbl. was a good shooter, it was also a little long/heavy for my ground pounding style of hunting-I bought it new and never had trouble with rust. I purchased a shorterused Deer stalker bbl with a nice enoughbore and reworked it to fit on the GPR, first few times I cleaned it with my warm water/dawn dishsoap/BB routine I got brown patches in a few days. I ended up soaking the bore with carb cleaner, bushing and cleaning the heck out of it, took awhile but it doesn't foul the patches anymore. It looked and felt clean befor I started so I don't know what was in there or what the previous owner did to clean it but since it's OK now there must have been something in it.

Doug

you are right. i use bb because it lets rb go in easy and using geox 2f, helps keep things cleaner. i dont use it on my powerbelts,i use clean barrel for deer now. but, i never got rust for 36 years using bb.now, i use sheath to store not bb.after all reading, i dont think bb is good thing for storing our guns but i like it for rb/concials and for patchs/bore buttons.

If bore butter is not good for storing our guns then why do some people store guns for a long time with it that they rarely shoot and don't have problems?

Sharp Shooter

You posted a question that really has two sides... Hardcore believers both ways and that is one of the things that makes this country great. You have the right to choose. You also going to be able to make decision based on input - if you are able to decipher pertenent information from bias.... good luck - I'll get that information sent to you tonight....

mike

dont know, i used it for 35 years to store my hawkins.no rust, now i use sheath,you figure.