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A thought I have had that I don't think I've ever seen mentioned is this:
When swabbing between shots (regardless of what liquid is used on the patch), how much of the fouling is pushed down the bore ahead of the patch? With propellants that are very "dirty" (black powder, pyrodex), I see a lot on the patch when it comes out, but I always wonder about the amount that was "piled up" on or near the flash hole before the new charge is placed.
And . . . so as not to hijack this thread - how does Iso/WW compare to others in "trapping" the fouling on the patch?

IM jaybe :)

RE: Alk & Wwarsh change group size?
 

the isopropyl and windshield washer fluid swab does seem to catch a lot of the fowling. Anything will push some of the fowling is my guess, but I have pulled patches with chunks of unburnt powder on the swab when using the alcohol & ww swab.

RE: Alk & Wwarsh change group size?
 

Certainly some fouling get's pushed ahead of a cleaning patch regardless of what solvent or not is used. Which is why it's a great idea to use a nipple or breech plug pick every now and then (Iclean the breech plug or nipple with a pickevery 3-4 shots at the range and after every shot in the field).

I find that T/C #13 is about the most worthless at removing fouling.

I use windex/99% alcohol which not only really cleans the bore, but also rapidly evaporates as a result of the alcohol.

When shooting a 209 ignition breech plug,a good techniqueI have found is to take a Q-Tip and swab the breech plug cup after cleaning the bore and using a nipple pick. This cleans any fouling or moisture if I have too damp of a cleaning patch.

m2c,

Tahquamenon

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Tahq - you and I sure agree on the T/C #13. I bought a bottle of that when it was on sale at the end of the season. I have never had any luck with that stuff. I know other people like it and that's fine, they can use it.

I also do the Q-tip in the breech plug trick. That really is a good way to keep things clean...

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jaybe

Actually you would be surprised how little is actually pushed down into or at the nipple. One of my rituals while shooting bench is to look down the bore after patching and before putting the charge down. While patching I do listen for the tail-tail sound ofdry air rushing through the nipple. With the stainless barrels I am using - I am also looking forthe reflection of the light coming through the nipple and creating a bore light in the barrel. I havenot everobserved a lot of loose fouling in the breech plug area or recession. There certainly is some hard fouling from the last ignition but that is about it.

Up until using thisWhite ithas not been necessary to clean the primer pocket or flash channel of the 209 nipples or to use a nipple pick (I am not even sure I have one for the inlines). They just keep on working and have never been a problem to put a primer in or get an expended primer out. With the White and the old style of 209 nipple I have"q" tipping the primer pocket has become a necessity, other wise it is very difficult to get the spent primer out. I have a new breech plug/nipple that i will try this weekend - it is built along a more conventional typenipple. Should work a lot better.