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had some free time, so i thought i would measure blackpowder.i know its said you should use volume measures that we buy for loading but i used them then poured it in my POWDER SCALE to weigh.i started at 50grs.in measure, it showed 50 and 1/2 gr.this may have been my scale was just a hair off.i then went up to 100grs. in measure, poured it in powder scale, and here was results.60grs was 60 and 1/2,70grs was 70 and 1/2,80grs was 80 and 1/2,90 grs was 90 and 1/2,100grs was 100 and 1/2. i did this over and over trying to see if my reading would change.they did not.I WAS SURPRISED how close powder scale was to the powder measure.i did notice if i tapped the side of the POWDER MEASURE ,the powder scale reading would be a full 1 gr above the amount, say like 50 grs in measure ,tapped, was 51 grs in the POWDER SCALE.this was with 2f of geox.i see no problem weighting your charges with 2f on a POWDER SCALE .anyone like to comment .thanks

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Powder can certainly be weighed but I guess mycomment is why would you want to?

Usually the main attractionof getting into muzzleloading is to learnand master the shooting & hunting tachniques used with muzzleloaders the way our ancesters did back in the early American traditional muzzleloading era.
(however, somedon't, preferring instead to use modern high pereformance scoped inlinesjust to take advantage of the specialhunting seasons established by/for the traditional muzzleloader hunters)

Real blackpowder's whole history is based upon using "volumetric" charges...weighing powder charges would not be somethng the typical settler would have done...doubt theycould have even if they'd wanted to given the lack of precision scales, etc...and lastly,there's really no measureable benefit to doing it....

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youre right, as usual.

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Don't get me wrong...this isn't a right or wrong hobby...you had asked for comments and I simply responded with my view of things...you can surely weighpowder charges if you want to.

I spent a lot of years weighing/sorting/mic-ing powders/bullets/cases for handloading centerfire cartridges, but when I got into traditional muzzleloading I left all that modern mentality over on the other side of the garage at that reloading bench...just enjoying a grand old form of shooting Flintlocks with real black powder and patched round balls...and for me, Idon't want to modernize it
:D

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hope you did not think i was getting smart, only was COMPLEMENTING YOU,is all.after i read ,why would you do it,youre right. some like to load their powder in film canisters and take to range to shoot so they dont have to measure it there.some only shoot say, 20 shots and use film canisters at home.i only brought this up because a few said YOU CANT WEIGHT POWDER CHARGES FOR BLACKPOWDER. i say, you can and was surprised, is all.

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I agree with roundball! Scales are nice if you live a long life using the same bullet & powder charge. But that gets boring in a hurry! In the three years that I have owned my Omega, I have successfully sighted-in six completely different bullets & weights DUE TO BOREDOM & a perfect excuse to tell the wife that I must leave here for an afternoon to sight-in one of my many rifles.[:@][:@]

I surely do not want to take scales with me to the range to work on powder charge loads.... especially with a wind that exceeds 5-10 MPH ;);)

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RB, that is the best paragraph I've read in a LONG LONG time. When I started hunting with a flint 3 years ago, I got myself a T/C Firestorm with the sythentic stock and the stainless barrel...and I can honestly say I now regret it. I wish I had a wooden stocked, hooked breech, brass and blued, smoke thrower. Muzzleloader hunting is about hunting like our forefathers did, not with new technology. I'm am now saving up my money to get myself a T/C .50 cal Renegade Flinter.

Thats one reason I love PA. They have a flintlock with iron V-notch sight muzzleloader season. PA is keeping the tradition alive.

GOOD JOB RB!!!

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No I didn't think that...I was just clarifying further bacause I wanted to be sure you didn't take my post as being "critical" of you.

Yes,I've premeasuredpowder charges into 35mm film canisters for 15 years...I don't weigh them, I just fill the powder measure then pour into a canister, fill 50 canisters per charge...have a large ziploc bag filled with with each different charge...40/50/60/70/80/90/100grns Goex...then all stored in a large heavy duty plastic sealable tub...then no matter what caliber I'm shooting that day, I have a bag of charges ready...in the July & August heat & humidity here, I don't waste a minutemore atthe range than I have to...I leave home in the dark, start shooting at first light, get back home inside the garage by 10:00am before the H&H gets too high.

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Interesting results sproulman. I will have to weigh a few on my digital scale sometime in the future and see what I come up with. I know when I weighed out Triple Se7en, I was kind of surprised at the results I got. Thanks for posting your results. It is something I can compare my findings to.

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Not responding to anyone in particular, just babbling:

BP volume powder measures are designed/calibrated to throw the same actual weight of BP...ie: a 100grn measure of BP is 100grns weight of BP.

TheBP Subs are usually a different weight...they're designed PHYSICALLY to take up the same amount of volume even though 100grn measure of Pyrodex RS only weight 72 grns or something.

Energy wise, it still equals the 100grn thrown charge of Goex...I assume otheres like 777 will weigh differently toobut they're all benchmarked against a volume measurement.