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Old 01-10-2006 | 01:47 PM
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HA EVERYONE,

IM NEW TOO THE FORUM AND LOOKING FOR ADVICE, IM WANTING TO TRY A SPEER GOLDDOT 240 GRN IN A THOMPSON BREAKAWAY SABOT. IM HOPING SOMEONE HAS TRIED NEW BULLETS IN SABOTS BEFORE.
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Old 01-10-2006 | 03:21 PM
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I've shot the Speer240 grain in .430. The 270 grainin .430. The 250 grain in .452 and the 300 grain in .452 diameter. I have shot them out of MMP, Harvester, Knight, Crushed Rib, and Thompson Center Mag Express sabots but never out of the break away sabots.

The 240 & 270 shot well if you did not push them too hard and did not shoot long distances. So far the 250 & 300 grain are doing exceptionally well in the accuracy department.. I like to shoot the Thompson Center Mag Express Sabots when ever I can..
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Old 01-10-2006 | 05:02 PM
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Just ordered some today (300 gr. - .452) from Midway along with some 250 gr. XPTs (.452) to shoot with the HPH-24 sabot from MPP. I shoot an Omega which has a really tight barrel. I'll let you know later how they shoot.

Run a search for Gold Dots and you'll get a number of posts to read about them.
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Old 01-10-2006 | 05:21 PM
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ORIGINAL: mouthcaller

Just ordered some today (300 gr. - .452) from Midway along with some 250 gr. XPTs (.452) to shoot with the HPH-24 sabot from MPP. I shoot an Omega which has a really tight barrel. I'll let you know later how they shoot.

Run a search for Gold Dots and you'll get a number of posts to read about them.
My Omega is a bear to load unless I use ,451s with Harvester sabots. Speer Gold Dots & HornadyXTPs have 230 gr 451s available. I tried the HPH24 plastic sabots. They are just as thin as the Harversters, but there is a substance on them that makes them a tad more difficult to load in my MLs than the Harvesters.

If you find the .452s difficult to load with those HPHs in the Omega, switch to Harvester crush-ribbed sabots.... even easier to load than the regular Harvesters.

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/department.asp?dept=%4D%55%5A%5A%4C%45%4C%4F%41%44 %49%4E%47&dept2=%43%4F%4D%50%4F%4E%45%4E%54%53 &dept3=%53%41%42%4F%54%53%20%4F%4E%4C%59&d ept4=%35%30%20%43%41%4C
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Old 01-10-2006 | 05:33 PM
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I have been shooting the new .452 Bonded Gold Dots in 250 grain and 300 grain weights. They shoot very well for me. I really think they are a little thicker than Hornady .452's so I would actually label them .4525.

I have shot them over my chrono and out the 150 yards. I am impressed.

The 45 cal 250's have a very deep HP and the way it is designed it will open and it will be abosolutely deadly on deer. From an inline shooting them to 150 yards is nothing, beyond 150 requires a little more thought due to the low BC of the bullet. The 300's have had the nose (HP) redesigned from the orginal .451's and the BC has been raised to .233. Their down range ballistics are awesome. The beauty of this is they are not that expensive - I guy can afford to shoot them at something other than animals.

The Bonding of the bullet to the copper is great - no separation of the lead and copper. I just started evaluating them this year near the end of our hunting season - I did not take any game, big game that is, with them yet, but I have shot them into a soft sand bank and recovered them. WOW! The picture I am posting is form the factory mine did not look this GOOD - but they were good - can you imagine this cutting it's way through an animals vitals.


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Old 01-10-2006 | 06:18 PM
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THANKS GUYS,

ILL LET YOU KNOW SOON HOW THEY DO FROM THE BREAKAWAYS....
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Old 01-11-2006 | 01:48 PM
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I was out at the range about two weeks ago and fired a couple 300 gr. .452 Gold Dots at a 200 yard gong. Later the gong came off its chain, so we went downrange to repair it. I noticed on the ground in front of the gong one of those gold dots. It was about 1/8" thick and the size of a silver dollar. Stuck out like a sore thumb among all the bullet fragments in the area - where lesser bullets had disintegrated from hitting the 2" thick abrasion resistant steel. I think these are going to work real well on game . . . .
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Old 01-11-2006 | 02:41 PM
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Thanks Roscoe, the more I shoot them the more confidence in themI am gaining. I really want to the season to get here again.

I have shot them out to 150 but never at 200 - did they seem to fly that distance for you OK or did you have to make some calculations and adjustments?

Speer has the experiance building these bonded bullets so I really am thinking they will ok. Heck one of the Speer factories is in Lewiston, Idaho - actually the home of the original Speer - 30 miles from here - I should go down and have a first hand discussion with them.

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Old 01-11-2006 | 02:57 PM
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Well, I hit a 12" gong two for two at 200 yards. Sighted in 3" high at 100 yards, I was holding on the top edge of the gong. Instant confidence producer
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Old 01-11-2006 | 03:12 PM
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That is where I am at 2 1/2 high @100 - figure to hold on the back of an elk @ 200 - that should put my in the vitals...

I need to get to a longer range to play...
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