going to get a muzzleloader
 

for christmas this year my dad is going to buy me a muzzleloader, i would like to get one that is under 250 dollars with a kit, it doesnt have to have a scope because i already have one. it doesnt have to shoot very far as long as its accurate and has some decent power to it. i would like to get a 50 caliber so me and my dad can share bullets and stuff cuz he has a knight something cant remembe that is 50 caliber. im only 14 so i would like one that is easy to use and clean, especially becuz its my first ml rifle.
Any suggestions?

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I'm 14 to! I would go with a traditional. These are a little over $$ but check them out. http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/horizontal-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat20712&id=0006567 210046a&navCount=2&podId=0006567&paren tId=cat601141&navAction=push&catalogCode=X F&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat601 141
Traditonals will cost a little more though. I like how you can remove the barrels and clean most of the traditionals alot easier by doing so. Also I just like the traditional way and dont think I will ever really shoot an Inline. Also, you can shoot roundballs out of tradtionals better then inlines and be very accurate. Also roundballs are really cheap to and do a good job. PM me if you need anything else since I and 14 to. There are alot of knowleable people on this forum to help you to. Good Luck!

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Have your Dad start checking the Wal Marts and such when they put their black powder stuff on sale. You can get some excellent rifles for a very reasonable price. A Knight or Thompson Center are real good choices... Also your idea of getting a .50 caliber is an excellent choice. That rifle will serve you the rest of your life.

There is a Knight Disc Elite on sale at Sportsman's Guide right now for around $250.00 which is a great shooting rifle. One of Knight's best accurate rifles made... Some very lucky devils got T/C Omega Z5's for $169.00 which is outstanding. Keep checking the different gun maker sites, look at the different rifles and see which ones interest you. After you decide what features you like, let us know and we can help you find one...

Good luck with your search and rifle...

RE: going to get a muzzleloader
 

i dont want to get a traditional becuz my dad has an inline and we would like to be able to use each others bullets, etc.

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If i were you i would look at CVA's muzzleloaders. The Hunterbolt is a great gun for the price and is very accurate. It is easy to clean and it comes in 50 caliber. I have one and i love it.

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OhioHunter222

I do not own one, a Knight Disk Elite, but everyone that knows about ML's sure highly recommends them - to the point they think Knight is making a mistake dis-continueing them.

If I could come up with a valid reason to buy another BP - I would get one but with the inlines I have now - there just isn't away i could get away with it.

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I would recommend the Omega Z5 but it's pricey for your range - slightly below $300 - perhaps you can find it on sale. Accurate and very easy to maintain.

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I would also suggest a KnightDISC Elite or a Wolverine in 50 cal.

If not a Knight then a T/C Z5 Omega. I have two Omega's and they are superb.

On another note, you could also search the local gun shops and likely pick up a really nice used ML for likely well under $250.

Good Luck

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how about a cva kodiak or a cva wolf those are two of the ones i like

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There are a lot of CVA owners out there in the world. There are a lot of people shooting those two mentioned rifles with excellent results. For my own personal reasons I would not recommend them when there are other brands out there I feel a better value for the dollar. Not a better bargin mind you, because it is hard to compete dollar for dollar when you buy on cost, with a CVA. I am sure that the rifle will do just fine for you. Please read your manual close and stick to the load recommendations of the manufacture and do not exceed them. That goes for any rifle you purchase, not just CVA. I think the Kodiak is a better gun then the Wolf. If you want the Wolf, save a little more money and get a New Frontier Beartooth Magnum. Same rifle. In fact it comes in a CVA box I was told.

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I would think they are both fairly comperable. The Kodiak I think is a little higher end CVA offering, but the Wolf seems like decent little rifle. I am not personally a CVA fan as I am not fond of their overall quality, fitment and finish. But if cared for and not misused, they should provide very good service.

Of the two you mentioned I would go with the one that handles, feels and shoulders the best to you. Regardless of what model youend up with.

You are the one that will be carrying and shooting the ML, so you might as well get something you like and are comfortable with. If possible, try to find one with a smoother trigger as some of them (Kodiak and Wolf)that I have looked at are a bit rough and heavy trigger-wise.

As mentioned, read, understandand followyour manual very carefully andask questions if you are not sure.

Good Luck!

Tahquamenon

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me and my dad looked at the wolf package today and i think im getting that one, by next ml season i will have a scope on it and it will be nice it comes with tru-glos

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I use a .50 CVA inline Stag Horn Magnum with a nickel barrel. It was the low end and I'm not even sure they make it anymore. I'll admit the stock seems cheesy and the safety design is horrible but the accuracy is there out to 100 yards with 2 50 gr 777 pellets and a 295 gr Powerbelt.

If it's possible pick it up and shoulder it (not sure if you're doing it mail order). Then imagine the clothes you'll be wearing when you're in the field and makes sure the stock isn't going to get hung-up in your jacket.

Tons of fun as long as you keep it clean and follow the directions on the use and safe handling.

Would I use a more expensive and user friendly gun if I could afford it? Sure, but I'm happy with what I have. Plus we can't shoot hinged muzzy's during muzzy season in MA. :eek:

Just my 2 cents.
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Let us know what Santa put's under the tree.

:D

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yep ill make sure that i tell everyone wat i get, i have a 12 gauge 1100 with a fully rifled barrel on it for gun season and a crossbow for bow season i just need a muzzleloader for ml season

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i think im gettin the ml for christmas because my dad told me i was gettin a nice present, i think he got either the kodiak or the optima. we'll see christmas day!!!:D