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yakfisher 11-19-2005 07:29 PM

Omega mounts
 
I just bought an Omega tonight. The scope mount screws look awfull close together. What is the best scope mount for it and do you have to get it drilled and tapped to get more space in between the mounts? Doesn't look like much to adjust the scope with.

I have heard a lot of loads for the gun on here. Will do a search later tonight. If anyone has a pet load they are dying to tell me about though, I wouldn't mind. Thanks.

cayugad 11-19-2005 07:38 PM

RE: Omega mounts
 
congratulations for adding a great rifle to your collection. Keep at it, and some day you will have walls full!! :D

ccicora 11-20-2005 09:17 AM

RE: Omega mounts
 
I used the TC weaver base, Leopold mounts and a Banner 3-9x40 scope. Got the setup at Bass pro. and they put it all together with lots of thread lock. then bore sited it. On the bore siting have someone who knows what they are doing I was 10" right and 4" high at 50 yds. now I'm 3" high at 100 and can hit a milk jug at 200 yds.

ENCOREMAN 11-20-2005 10:53 AM

RE: Omega mounts
 
yakfisher,
My favorite base/ring set up for the Enocre and Omega is the Leupold Quick Release.It costs a little more, but it's worth the extra money "IMO".
It's easy to take on and off (no tools)for cleaning purposes and it retains your zero point.

yakfisher 11-20-2005 11:13 AM

RE: Omega mounts
 
I can't find the Leupold QR base number listed by Leupold on their site. I was able to find the Rifleman base, which is basically a weaver style base. Do you know what the QR base model number is? I just put that setup on my Knight Bighorn and I really like it!

ENCOREMAN 11-20-2005 01:02 PM

RE: Omega mounts
 
yakfisher,
The Leupold QR matte base part # is 52325
low rings matte # 49971
med rings matte # 49974
high rings matte # 49979

I checked Mid South Shooters Supply and the base is $43.49 and the rings are $20.20

yakfisher 11-20-2005 03:53 PM

RE: Omega mounts
 
Thanks for the info. Did you use the low rings or the medium?

ENCOREMAN 11-20-2005 04:10 PM

RE: Omega mounts
 
yakfisher,
I used the medium QR matte rings and I havea LeupoldVXIII3.5-10X40 on one of my Encore's and the Burris Fullfield II 3-9X40 on my T.H. Omega.
My best loads for my Omegaare the 300 Barnes MZ w/110grs. 777 and the Barnes 285gr. Spit Fire.
My all time best bullet/sabot you can not find any longer was the 289gr. Remington Copper Solid. This bullet would give me MOA groups consistantly @ 100yds. with magnum powder charges. I have about 60 rounds left of these and I'm saving them for hunting purposes only.



yakfisher 11-20-2005 04:17 PM

RE: Omega mounts
 
I have a Nikon Buckmaster 3-9X40 that I am going to put on the Omega. I originally bought this for my Knight Bighorn, but I couldn't pass up the deal on the Omega for $169.00 at Walmart last night. I think with the 28" barrel, the Omega would be a better long distance gun than the Bighorn with the 22" barrel. Do you think I could use the low rings? They are what Leupold recommends on their mount selector. I would like to get the scope as close to the barrel as possible. Thanks again for the info.

ENCOREMAN 11-20-2005 04:38 PM

RE: Omega mounts
 
yakfisher,
I have a set of low matte QR ringsif you're interested. I've had them for awhile and I don't remember if they're new or used. They look new, but I don't have the package they came in. I'd make you a good deal and you wouldn't have to pay me till you know for sure that they'd work for you.
How's $10.00 plus shipping costs sound to you?

Encore50 11-20-2005 04:45 PM

RE: Omega mounts
 
Must agree with ENCOREMAN, the Leupold QR base and rings are the way to go. I usethe QR base and ringson my Encore. I preferthe high rings to giveme just a little morehammer-to-scope space. My buddy usesthe Weaver base and rings on his Omega but wishes he had used the Leupold QR's.

Being able to easily remove the scope forcleaning or for thoseplaces that don't allow scopes is a big plus. Best deal of all,it goes back on as easilyand remainszero'ed or very very close to it.

Not sure about usingBass ProShop to install your mounting hardware, scope, and do the bore sighting! The BPwe have here has some very incompetent people working the gun counter. I would never trust these boneheads! Take it to a good gunsmith and haveitdone right!

yakfisher 11-20-2005 07:37 PM

RE: Omega mounts
 
I ordered the Leupold QR Matte base and QR Matte High rings. I checked some clearances and I think the high rings will work better for trigger clearance like you said Encore50

mouthcaller 11-20-2005 08:56 PM

RE: Omega mounts
 
I highly recommend the Talley one-piece aluminum mount. It is machined out of one piece of high-strength aluminum alloy and is designed especially for the omega or encore. I called Talley and spoke with Dave Talley himself. He reinterated your comment about the tap holes being so close together, so he designed the mount to add space between the rings. He also elavated the mount above the hammer so you can get your thumb on it to cock it.It is a slick piece of work that is super strong. Go to the website and check it out (I think it is www.talleyrings.com). You can call the number and order it direct for 49.00 (mount and rings). It was delivered to my door within 3 days.

Good luck.

BGHUNTER00 11-21-2005 03:07 PM

RE: Omega mounts
 
You have already ordered, but in case anyone else needs advice, the Leupold low rings would not work on my Omega with a 3-9X40 Leupold scope (scope actually touched the barrel with the low rings). The Med rings were a perfect fit and the scope is rock solid. That thing has traveled across the country this year and not moved a bit. Rings and bases are so important, maybe even more so than the scope itself. The ultimate load I have come up with for my Omega is 120g loose Pyrodex with a 200g shockwave (for deer sized game), very deadly.

yakfisher 11-21-2005 05:37 PM

RE: Omega mounts
 
Encore50, you said in last nights post that you used the high rings. Do you have a problem with the scope being too high to get good contact with the stock?

Fl Still Hunter 11-21-2005 05:51 PM

RE: Omega mounts
 
I agree with Mouthcaller. If You do not like the looks of the Leupold setup, send it back and go with the Talley one-piece ( base and rings CAD milled one-piece). This set up is rock solid,use lock tite. Perfict fit and finish. Remove front sight and rear sight, replace screws with blind screwsand You will have one smooth looking firearm. Not to mention accurate and potent at 200 Yds.You will have the best looking gun at the range and not to mention at the hunt camp !! The deer wont mutch like it though.

yakfisher 11-21-2005 06:35 PM

RE: Omega mounts
 
We will see when I get the mounts. I have seen that one peice mount and considered it. Cabelas has it for $49.99. If the Leupold Mounts don't work out, I will give them a try. I like the way it is raised for the trigger. It also looks a lot sturdier than the Luepold Rifleman, the TC, and the TC Maxima Weaver style setups. Also considered them. I didn't because I had some problems with a Weaver setup on another gun. That was none of the above mentioned companies mounts though. Thanks a lot for everyones input. I will let you know how the Leupold mounts work out. I really like this site. A really great bunch of people. I have a couple of fishing sites that I am a member of that have good people on them too. The internet is a wonderful thing!

MOTurkeyTamer 11-21-2005 07:31 PM

RE: Omega mounts
 

ORIGINAL: BGHUNTER00

You have already ordered, but in case anyone else needs advice, the Leupold low rings would not work on my Omega with a 3-9X40 Leupold scope (scope actually touched the barrel with the low rings).
I found this same thing out about a year and a half ago on my Omega. First tried the low rings and the scope layed on the barrel. Sent them back for medium rings and now it's perfect. I'm using a VX-II 3-9x40 on it. The Leupold QR rings and bases have worked well for me and I also like the Warne QR rings and bases.

My Omega's preferred load consists of a 200 gr.T/C Shockwave over 110 grs. of Triple Se7en ffg.

Good luck with the new Omega, yakfisher!

mouthcaller 11-21-2005 08:47 PM

RE: Omega mounts
 
Fl Still Hunter, you are so right about the sturdiness and good looks of this Talley one-piece. The fit and finish is flawless. So well designed and worth the price.

One more thing - in speaking with Mr. Talley I asked him about using LockTite on the bases and the torque screws on the the rings. He said that LockTite will work on the screws used to hold the mount to the barrel but not the torque screws used with the rings because LockTite doesn't work on aluminum. He advised me to just tighten them down nice and snugand they won't back out.

Encore50 11-21-2005 10:59 PM

RE: Omega mounts
 
Yakfisher.........

I replied to your personal message. But if you didn't see it I will tell what I preferred to accomplish.Iwanted to leave the rear sight attached in case I used my ML where scopes are not allowed. With that in mind, I used the high rings and it all fit perfect. The front optics bell on the scope sets a mere 1/4" from the barrel plus I didn't have to remove the rear sight. To me it is not too high at all and I love the set up.

Local gun shophelp me out with this and also didthe mounting and bore sighting for free since I purchased the QR base and rings from them.

yakfisher 11-22-2005 01:57 PM

RE: Omega mounts
 
Encore50, I ordered the same setup for the same reason. I think it will work out fine. I have QR setups on a couple of my other guns and love them. Thanks for the info.

yakfisher 11-24-2005 07:07 PM

RE: Omega mounts
 
I got my mounts last night and put everything together. I am really satisfied with the setup. I really like the quick release rings. They have many advantages to them, especially when cleanig the gun or if I want to use the iron sights one day. The Nikon 3X9X40 Buckmasters scope looks really good on the Omega. My Sims recoil pad will be in on Monday. I am going to try and shoot it tomorrow. It depends on how many people are at the hunting club.

ENCOREMAN 11-24-2005 09:37 PM

RE: Omega mounts
 
yakfisher,
Sounds like you're ready to make some smoke! The Leupold QR rings and base are the best set up, IMO for a muzzleloader. You'll like your sims pad too once youhave it installed. I'm interested to seeif you loose the feel for seating the bullet on loose powder like I did. The sims pad collapses so easily.

yakfisher 11-25-2005 08:44 PM

RE: Omega mounts
 
The pad on my Knight is pretty soft. I just put downward pressure with the hand holding the barrel. You can just about bottom out the pad. Seems to take the spongyness out of it.


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