smallest powder charge of 777 needed
11-03-2005, 09:23 PM
#1
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 9
smallest powder charge of 777 needed
to achieve a velocity enough to kill a deer at 20 yards? i would like to have my 8 year old son attempt to shoot a deer this year but am afraid that the recoil would possibly scare himfor life. how much velocity is needed to humanely kill a deer at that distance and how much powder would it take to get that velocity?.................thanks
i'm pushing a 405 grain black belt bullet out of my .54 cal thunderhawk.
i'm pushing a 405 grain black belt bullet out of my .54 cal thunderhawk.
11-04-2005, 09:07 AM
#2
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Colorado
Posts: 4,127
RE: smallest powder charge of 777 needed
I would switch to a roundball and load about 50 grains of blackpowder. My 8 year old, when he weighed 70 lbs., could shoot this load comfortably out of 50 caliber. I don't see the .54 as being that much heavier in the recoil department.
11-04-2005, 11:47 AM
#3
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,922
RE: smallest powder charge of 777 needed
That Thunderhawk is a 1-48" twist that will support the more lightweight Buffalo Ballets (310 gr)& roundballs around 220 gr. Use pre-lubed cotton or pillow-ticking patches around .015 thickness with 50-55 grains 777.
11-04-2005, 02:06 PM
#4
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2004
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RE: smallest powder charge of 777 needed
today i messed around a little with the black belts at 20 yards. i started at 80 grains and kept reducing the powder charge after each shot. i used a treated 2x6 as a measuring stick for penetration(not sure how accurate this, but i figured if it could blow thru that board, it should be enough for a deer). i was surprised to see how little powder was needed to accomplish this. the recoil felt equal to a 22. any ideas?
11-04-2005, 02:25 PM
#5
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: WC FL
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RE: smallest powder charge of 777 needed
ORIGINAL: blacklabel
today i messed around a little with the black belts at 20 yards. i started at 80 grains and kept reducing the powder charge after each shot. i used a treated 2x6 as a measuring stick for penetration(not sure how accurate this, but i figured if it could blow thru that board, it should be enough for a deer). i was surprised to see how little powder was needed to accomplish this. the recoil felt equal to a 22. any ideas?
today i messed around a little with the black belts at 20 yards. i started at 80 grains and kept reducing the powder charge after each shot. i used a treated 2x6 as a measuring stick for penetration(not sure how accurate this, but i figured if it could blow thru that board, it should be enough for a deer). i was surprised to see how little powder was needed to accomplish this. the recoil felt equal to a 22. any ideas?
11-04-2005, 02:53 PM
#6
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2004
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RE: smallest powder charge of 777 needed
ORIGINAL: Rebel Hog
You should'nt go below 60grs, at the least 50grs.
ORIGINAL: blacklabel
today i messed around a little with the black belts at 20 yards. i started at 80 grains and kept reducing the powder charge after each shot. i used a treated 2x6 as a measuring stick for penetration(not sure how accurate this, but i figured if it could blow thru that board, it should be enough for a deer). i was surprised to see how little powder was needed to accomplish this. the recoil felt equal to a 22. any ideas?
today i messed around a little with the black belts at 20 yards. i started at 80 grains and kept reducing the powder charge after each shot. i used a treated 2x6 as a measuring stick for penetration(not sure how accurate this, but i figured if it could blow thru that board, it should be enough for a deer). i was surprised to see how little powder was needed to accomplish this. the recoil felt equal to a 22. any ideas?
why?
11-04-2005, 03:05 PM
#7
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: WC FL
Posts: 26,323
RE: smallest powder charge of 777 needed
ORIGINAL: blacklabel
why?
ORIGINAL: Rebel Hog
You should'nt go below 60grs, at the least 50grs.
ORIGINAL: blacklabel
today i messed around a little with the black belts at 20 yards. i started at 80 grains and kept reducing the powder charge after each shot. i used a treated 2x6 as a measuring stick for penetration(not sure how accurate this, but i figured if it could blow thru that board, it should be enough for a deer). i was surprised to see how little powder was needed to accomplish this. the recoil felt equal to a 22. any ideas?
today i messed around a little with the black belts at 20 yards. i started at 80 grains and kept reducing the powder charge after each shot. i used a treated 2x6 as a measuring stick for penetration(not sure how accurate this, but i figured if it could blow thru that board, it should be enough for a deer). i was surprised to see how little powder was needed to accomplish this. the recoil felt equal to a 22. any ideas?
why?
Have you ever read manufactures loading manuals?
Most list safeminimum loadcharges.
