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mauser06 10-19-2005 08:28 PM

flintlock shotgun
 
while pondering a few things today while hunting with the flintlock i already know i want to replace my hunting guns to ALL flintlocks lol........i just absolutely love carrying a flintlock.....i dont know why but i do.....i havent even taken a deer with it yet.....2 groundhogs....but no deer as of yet...hoping to change that soon.....and for small game and plinking.....a 32cal will substitute 22cal rifles.......my 50cal substitues my deer rifle......but i want a flintlock TURKEY and upland gun....but cant find a flintlock shotgun that isnt 40k$ and custom blah blah......i mean...sure ill go for a custom....but i dont need the former king of englands replica that is going to cost me a house lol....i want to build the 32cal rifle....and even the shotgun maybe....i love making stuff...but anyone know of a flintlock shotgun that was actually manufactured?? cant you load smoothbores with shot??? whats a good smoothbore flintlock out there?? what calibers are equal to what gauges if id go that route?? i really want a flintlock shotgun in the future.......note...future...not anytime soon...but you know....im bored and like to get stuff planned out and love learning about stuff like this....and am already planning and learning on what i want to do....and how im going to do it.......so any info on flintlock shotguns??? id like to turkey hunt with it...squirrel...upland...you know...an all around shotgun lol......any way to make my dream come true??? do i gota have it all built for myself or can i find barrels.....locks ect and make it from the parts?? thanx...

cayugad 10-19-2005 08:43 PM

RE: flintlock shotgun
 

ORIGINAL: mauser06

while pondering a few things today while hunting with the flintlock i already know i want to replace my hunting guns to ALL flintlocks lol........i just absolutely love carrying a flintlock.....i dont know why but i do.....i havent even taken a deer with it yet.....2 groundhogs....but no deer as of yet...hoping to change that soon.....and for small game and plinking.....a 32cal will substitute 22cal rifles.......my 50cal substitues my deer rifle......but i want a flintlock TURKEY and upland gun....but cant find a flintlock shotgun that isnt 40k$ and custom blah blah......i mean...sure ill go for a custom....but i dont need the former king of englands replica that is going to cost me a house lol....i want to build the 32cal rifle....and even the shotgun maybe....i love making stuff...but anyone know of a flintlock shotgun that was actually manufactured?? cant you load smoothbores with shot??? whats a good smoothbore flintlock out there?? what calibers are equal to what gauges if id go that route?? i really want a flintlock shotgun in the future.......note...future...not anytime soon...but you know....im bored and like to get stuff planned out and love learning about stuff like this....and am already planning and learning on what i want to do....and how im going to do it.......so any info on flintlock shotguns??? id like to turkey hunt with it...squirrel...upland...you know...an all around shotgun lol......any way to make my dream come true??? do i gota have it all built for myself or can i find barrels.....locks ect and make it from the parts?? thanx...
Gauge/ Caliber Weight/gr.
Balls/lb.
8 .835 875
10 .776 700
12 .730 583
13 .710 538
14 .693 500
16 .663 438
20 .615 350
24 .579 292
28 .550 250


That will give you a ruff idea of the kind of caliber you would have to look for in order to get the size of shotgun you want. I personally shoot a .62 caliber smoothbore which is a 20 gauge. If you really want to throw some serious shot and also hunt with a large roundball look for a Brown Bess Kit in .72 caliber. It would be all the shotgun you would ever need, and for close range roundball shooting they are more then able to take out VERY large game...

Hope this helped..

roundball 10-19-2005 08:47 PM

RE: flintlock shotgun
 

ORIGINAL: mauser06

while pondering a few things today while hunting with the flintlock i already know i want to replace my hunting guns to ALL flintlocks lol........i just absolutely love carrying a flintlock.....i dont know why but i do.....i havent even taken a deer with it yet.....2 groundhogs....but no deer as of yet...hoping to change that soon.....and for small game and plinking.....a 32cal will substitute 22cal rifles.......my 50cal substitues my deer rifle......but i want a flintlock TURKEY and upland gun....but cant find a flintlock shotgun that isnt 40k$ and custom blah blah......i mean...sure ill go for a custom....but i dont need the former king of englands replica that is going to cost me a house lol....i want to build the 32cal rifle....and even the shotgun maybe....i love making stuff...but anyone know of a flintlock shotgun that was actually manufactured?? cant you load smoothbores with shot??? whats a good smoothbore flintlock out there?? what calibers are equal to what gauges if id go that route?? i really want a flintlock shotgun in the future.......note...future...not anytime soon...but you know....im bored and like to get stuff planned out and love learning about stuff like this....and am already planning and learning on what i want to do....and how im going to do it.......so any info on flintlock shotguns??? id like to turkey hunt with it...squirrel...upland...you know...an all around shotgun lol......any way to make my dream come true??? do i gota have it all built for myself or can i find barrels.....locks ect and make it from the parts?? thanx...
Here's an excellent site you might want to bookmark.
http://members.aye.net/~bspen/SmoothboreLoads.html

I have TC Hawken muzzleloaders and Green Mountain barrel company makes several "drop-in" barrels for the TC Hawkens, some of which are smoothbore barrels...I set up a couple of TC Hawkens withthese Flint barrels: .54cal(.28ga) and .62cal(.20ga)

My 25yd small game load for the .54cal(.28ga) SB is:

70grns Goex 3F (or 80grns 2F)
Two OxYoke wonderwads (as overpowder wads)
1+1/8oz #6's
.28ga Circle Fly over shot wad


My 35-40yd Turkey load in the .62cal(.20ga) SB is:

70grns Goex 3F (or 80grns 2F)
Two OxYoke wonderwads (as overpowder wads)
Paper shot cup
1+5/8oz #6's
.20ga Circle Fly over shot card



mauser06 10-20-2005 05:47 AM

RE: flintlock shotgun
 
thankss alot guys......thats some good info......and makes my day......looks like my dreams CAN come true......i just love carrying a flintlock........and think it would be awesome to tinker with a flintlock shotgun......how well do smoothbores pattern?? thats a straight cylinder....but could i have the bores end choked to take tubes?? i know if you have say a straight modified barrel a gunsmith can tap it to take chokes....but dont know about a smoothbore....but if you shoot turkeys are 35-40yds with a .62 cal i wouldnt have a problem at all busting birds with a .72cal..........man that would be a HECK of a giant roundball!! thats a mini cannon! lol........ill look into smoothbores after class and check out that link........thanks guys.......now ill be looking for someone that makes a bigole smoothbore and components to fit it.....i have a 50cal hawken tc flinter now......i cant drop in a larger barrel could i?? they are diffrent sizes correct?? or could i drop in a 54 or 62 cal smooth bore barrel in?? just wondering since i got the gun...i could spare a little cash this summer for a smoothbore barrel for it and get the shotgun rolling next season if that wouldwork but i dont know about that....cant wait lol....that would be awesome!!!

mauser06 10-20-2005 07:13 AM

RE: flintlock shotgun
 
wow roundball....that site is awesome...and i went back to the main page....and im going to be reading all day.........skipping class already crossed my mind..........flintlocking is my love....and that site now fules my addictions.......wow i cant wait till 315 when class is over!!! im going to be reading all night......maybe my next class has a wireless connection through the building and i can read while i listen to the lecture! lol........thats awesome...happen to know any other good sites...BP info....flintlocking.....muzzleloading.....making stuff.......anything?? i LOVE reading about stuff like this.......one day ill get around to doing it all myself....the day i graduate college i got 100000000 projects lol....im going to live a great busy life i can tell already.....everytime i search for stuff to read like that site all i get is garbage...selling stuff or books......so if you got anything you think id like to read go ahead and post it or PM them to me lol.....thats an awesome site i cant wait till class is over for the day!

roundball 10-20-2005 05:07 PM

RE: flintlock shotgun
 

ORIGINAL: mauser06

thankss alot guys......thats some good info......and makes my day......looks like my dreams CAN come true......i just love carrying a flintlock........and think it would be awesome to tinker with a flintlock shotgun......how well do smoothbores pattern?? thats a straight cylinder....but could i have the bores end choked to take tubes?? i know if you have say a straight modified barrel a gunsmith can tap it to take chokes....but dont know about a smoothbore....but if you shoot turkeys are 35-40yds with a .62 cal i wouldnt have a problem at all busting birds with a .72cal..........man that would be a HECK of a giant roundball!! thats a mini cannon! lol........ill look into smoothbores after class and check out that link........thanks guys.......now ill be looking for someone that makes a bigole smoothbore and components to fit it.....i have a 50cal hawken tc flinter now......i cant drop in a larger barrel could i?? they are diffrent sizes correct?? or could i drop in a 54 or 62 cal smooth bore barrel in?? just wondering since i got the gun...i could spare a little cash this summer for a smoothbore barrel for it and get the shotgun rolling next season if that wouldwork but i dont know about that....cant wait lol....that would be awesome!!!
Made by Green Mountain, my .54cal (.28ga) Flint smoothbore barrel is 15/16", specifically made as adrop-in barrel for the .45/.50cal TC Hawken stock...contact Ed Cain at Cain's Outdoor, West VA.,..he'll order it for you...$150...and it shoots Hornady .530 roundballs into a 3" aim point sticker at 50yds (90grns Goex 3F + OxYoke wonderwad+ .010" prelubed patch)...and excellent smoothbore barrel...


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