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eldeguello 09-04-2005 09:40 AM

RE: .54 GPR and Pyrodex RS cause slight delay
 

ORIGINAL: Finaddict

I took my .54 GPR to the range and tried loading it with 90gr. Pyrodex RS with a CCI #11 cap and a PRB and when I let off the trigger there was a slight delay between the cap being popped and the powder charge going off. Now when I use Goex 2F with everything else the same I experience no delay at all. Is there a way to be able to use Pyrodex without getting a delay? Perhaps I ought to try Pyrodex P instead. It works just fine in my Crockett .32.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Pyrodex "P" might stop the hangfire, but if you check the October Country web site, they sell the "Mag-Spark" nipple. Put one on your GPR, and use No. 209 shotgun primers! This will eliminate any hangfires caused by Pyrodex.

http://octobercountry.com/products3.php?productid=395

Finaddict 09-04-2005 09:46 AM

RE: .54 GPR and Pyrodex RS cause slight delay
 
Thanks eldequello I'll check the link out and see what they have. Never thought of using 209 with a sidelock.

cayugad 09-04-2005 09:57 AM

RE: .54 GPR and Pyrodex RS cause slight delay
 

Pyrodex "P" might stop the hangfire, but if you check the October Country web site, they sell the "Mag-Spark" nipple. Put one on your GPR, and use No. 209 shotgun primers! This will eliminate any hangfires caused by Pyrodex.
eldeguello ... Have you ever had any problems with the nipple being blown back to the half cock or full cock position from the power of the 209 primer? Other posts claim it can damage the spring in the hammer. I just wondered if you experienced any of this?

Triple Se7en 09-04-2005 12:18 PM

RE: .54 GPR and Pyrodex RS cause slight delay
 
Keep the powder channel clear by using hard-force water spray when cleaning..... make sure the bottom hole of the nipple is clear -- use FFF/P powder with sidelocks -- then buy a hotter nipple & #11 caps that say "magnum"..... that's all you need to get instantaneous ignition... as long as your powder is not contaminated with moisture.

If using the system poster eldeguellodescribes, buy the Remington Kleanbore 209 primers.... nothing elseto maintainlongetivity of your hammer spring. Also keep a close eye on the 209 primer while sitting & pivoting in your hunting seat. It may fall off the 209 nipple... may not! All 209 manufacturers are not using the same precise diameters.

I have no idea why his name came out big & bold in my post. Must be a demonin the web airways...lol[:@][:@]

eldeguello 09-04-2005 01:12 PM

RE: .54 GPR and Pyrodex RS cause slight delay
 

ORIGINAL: cayugad


Pyrodex "P" might stop the hangfire, but if you check the October Country web site, they sell the "Mag-Spark" nipple. Put one on your GPR, and use No. 209 shotgun primers! This will eliminate any hangfires caused by Pyrodex.
eldeguello ... Have you ever had any problems with the nipple being blown back to the half cock or full cock position from the power of the 209 primer? Other posts claim it can damage the spring in the hammer. I just wondered if you experienced any of this?
Absolutey not! The Mag Spark's vent hole is no bigger than that of any other nipple. But it will blast a flash from the primer all the way out the muzzle, just like you get when you pop a primer in a centerfire case that has no bullet or powder in the case.

I have not tried it, (I'm a "loose powder" man), but I'll bet you could even use Pyrodex pellets in a sidelock with this nipple-at least I think I could, because my rifles have "semipatent breeches" in which the flash comes in at the dead center of the rear of the chamber......

eldeguello 09-04-2005 01:16 PM

RE: .54 GPR and Pyrodex RS cause slight delay
 

ORIGINAL: Triple Se7en

Keep the powder channel clear by using hard-force water spray when cleaning..... make sure the bottom hole of the nipple is clear -- use FFF/P powder with sidelocks -- then buy a hotter nipple & #11 caps that say "magnum"..... that's all you need to get instantaneous ignition... as long as your powder is not contaminated with moisture.

If using the system poster eldeguellodescribes, buy the Remington Kleanbore 209 primers.... nothing elseto maintainlongetivity of your hammer spring. Also keep a close eye on the 209 primer while sitting & pivoting in your hunting seat. It may fall off the 209 nipple... may not! All 209 manufacturers are not using the same precise diameters.

I have no idea why his name came out big & bold in my post. Must be a demonin the web airways...lol[:@][:@]
The Mag-Spark nipple has a cap that contains a "firing pin" that screws onto the outside of the nipple body after you put the primer in,covering the primer. This effectively waterproofs the nipple/cap assembly, so no moisture can enter from the breech, AND, of course, the primer can't fall off........

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v444/eldeguello/display-image.jpg


The cap with pin protruding is at the lower right in this photo.....

Finaddict 09-05-2005 06:27 AM

RE: .54 GPR and Pyrodex RS cause slight delay
 
Hey Triple Se7en I am using the Remingtion #11 caps that are supposed to be 40% hotter. The powder channel is always clear. I think I'm just going to go to using FFF /P powder in the sidelocks and see what happens. I think it will do just fine. Thanks for all the suggestions.

charlie brown 09-05-2005 11:34 AM

RE: .54 GPR and Pyrodex RS cause slight delay
 
I have used Pyrodex RS in my CVA sidelock since I got it. I have never had any problems with ignition. I use CCI #11 Magnum caps.

cayugad 09-05-2005 12:17 PM

RE: .54 GPR and Pyrodex RS cause slight delay
 

ORIGINAL: Finaddict

Hey Triple Se7en I am using the Remingtion #11 caps that are supposed to be 40% hotter. The powder channel is always clear. I think I'm just going to go to using FFF /P powder in the sidelocks and see what happens. I think it will do just fine. Thanks for all the suggestions.
If you"re using the Remington #11 caps, that might be your problem right there... I hate those caps!! Of all the caps I have shot the ones that gave me nothing but problems were the Remington. And wouldn't you know it, the Wal Mart where I live would only carry them after they ran out of CCI Magnum #11 caps.

I finally bought myself a case of the Dynamite Noble 1075. Now them are caps. They make everything go BOOM! I always have excellent luck with them. As for the Remington, well I have some tins in the gun room and when I am preparing the rifle to take it to the range outside, I will use them to pop through the nipple....

Pittsburghunter 09-05-2005 01:00 PM

RE: .54 GPR and Pyrodex RS cause slight delay
 
I like the Nobel but have grown fond of the CCI caps. I just bought out a gun shop going out of business $2 a tin. I bought 1500 of the suckers, that should keep me going for a year or two. (1500 caps not tins lol)

The are a mix of 50/50 magnum and regular.


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