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Whitehair 05-12-2005 08:24 PM

Its about that time...
 
Dont get me wrong, I love my old Remington 700ML, but its about time for a new baby. Im up in the air between a few rifles;
A- NEF SideKick
B- MDM QuicShooter Magnum
C- CVA Optima Pro
All of them seem to be very similar (Thats why im having trouble deciding) and I was wondering if any of them stood out, either in a bad or good way.

Any other suggestions are greatly appreciated
Thanks

Chasam60 05-12-2005 08:30 PM

RE: Its about that time...
 
Only a one word reply. OMEGA-OMEGA-OMEGA.

Charlie

Whitehair 05-12-2005 08:34 PM

RE: Its about that time...
 
I do like the Omega, but its a bit pricey for me...im trying to keep it under $200-$250

cayugad 05-12-2005 08:47 PM

RE: Its about that time...
 

ORIGINAL: Whitehair

Dont get me wrong, I love my old Remington 700ML, but its about time for a new baby. Im up in the air between a few rifles;
A- NEF SideKick
B- MDM QuicShooter Magnum
C- CVA Optima Pro
All of them seem to be very similar (Thats why im having trouble deciding) and I was wondering if any of them stood out, either in a bad or good way.

Any other suggestions are greatly appreciated
Thanks
Of those mentioned I think I would go with the NEF Sidekick. For no other reason then the company that makes them has been making that action for a long time. Also I have had a chance to handle the Sidekick and it is a nice shouldering rifle. All reports are they are great shooters out of the box.

I am sure that the others are fine rifles. Although if I did not have a real bad itch for a new one I might hold off and save a little more and look at the Omega. It always surprises me when I look at the auction sites how well a T/C Omega holds their value.

roger1shot 05-12-2005 08:51 PM

RE: Its about that time...
 
Hi,
I'm new to the line muzzle loaders.I've only had my Knight Disc 50 a short time.
I like the Knight alot better than my brother's CVA Mag.Bolt 150's.
And the Knight shoots 100% better than the .54 Cableas Hawkin's
that I shot for ten years.
Just watch the tape on how to take the bolt apart close,I didn't and had to get help from this web-site to fix it.
I shot at 200yards this pass Wed,and I'm just in love with the Knight.
The orange Disc are just one draw back,but If you have them all ready to shoot ,then they are quick and fast to load.
Good Luck on making up your mind,theres all sorts of Muzzleloaders out there .Ten years ago there wasen't alot to chose from.

Triple Se7en 05-13-2005 02:29 AM

RE: Its about that time...
 
Keep using the Rem until you have enough dough for the T/C Omega or Knight Revolution.

Chasam60 05-13-2005 03:29 PM

RE: Its about that time...
 
What did you pay for your 700ML? I bought mine in 1996 and it was one of the high end rifles then.I believe I paid around $350.00.The Omega is not much more than that.I must admit I have never equaled the groups I shot with the 700.Still the most accurate rifle I own,Just too dirty for me to deal with.Good luck with whatever you choose.

Charlie

Whitehair 05-14-2005 05:48 PM

RE: Its about that time...
 
How about the Knight Wolverine 209? Im kinda liking the .50 on Natchez...

cayugad 05-14-2005 06:44 PM

RE: Its about that time...
 
The Knight 209 .50 caliber Wolverine would be a great rifle. Is this the one that does not have sights on it because it is meant to have a scope? I have a Knight Wolverine II .50 caliber which is the older model that uses the #11 caps and has a 22" barrel. It is a great shooting rifle and easy to clean. I think your choice with the longer barrel would be an excellent choice in my opinion. It would be a real long range sabot shooter and at a reasonable price also....

Tahquamenon 05-17-2005 10:04 AM

RE: Its about that time...
 
I think from the models you listed that they are all likley pretty comperable.

If a break-action is what you are looking for also take a look at the Traditions Pursuit Pro.
I've not shot one but the balance and shouldering is really good.

I'd give the edge to NEF were my money. I have several H&R/NEF rifles and they are all well made.

etothepii 05-19-2005 11:05 AM

RE: Its about that time...
 

Of those mentioned I think I would go with the NEF Sidekick. For no other reason then the company that makes them has been making that action for a long time. Also I have had a chance to handle the Sidekick and it is a nice shouldering rifle. All reports are they are great shooters out of the box.
I've heard a few complaints about the Sidekick, but still, I'd buy it. I've heard the ramrod (extendable) is flimsy, and you have to make sure the barrel-to-receiver fit is snug. Also have to choose medium or high scope rings to avoid having the hammer hit the scope.

Whitehair 05-19-2005 02:02 PM

RE: Its about that time...
 
Sorry it took me so long to get back-

Im really starting to like the Wolverine. It does have the 26" barrel, but im not sure if it has sights or not. If it doesnt, I will probably buy a set to install myself. (I use see-thru mounts)

The Wolverine 209 uses a DISC doesnt it?

-Thanks

ahankster 05-19-2005 02:53 PM

RE: Its about that time...
 
Of the three, I had an Optima.
I liked it, did what I asked of it and really can't say one negative thing about it. But, Last year I sold it and bought an encore.
Won't ever look back, it is like a Ferrari compared to a Volkswagon. Did it cost allot? Yup, but you get what you pay for.
I know this really didn't answer your question.
But, in the end, you get what you pay for and if you pay $550 bucks for an Omega or Encore now that lasts for ten years, or $250 for a gun you might grow out of in 3 or 4 years, which is better?
R
Hank

Tahquamenon 05-20-2005 11:53 AM

RE: Its about that time...
 

ORIGINAL: ahankster

But, in the end, you get what you pay for and if you pay $550 bucks for an Omega or Encore now that lasts for ten years, or $250 for a gun you might grow out of in 3 or 4 years, which is better?
R
Hank
Hey Hank,

Just an observation here.
With proper care and maintenance, even the bottom of the line ML should last many years, to decades, to generations+ depending on how much you shoot and how well you care for the weapon.

I've never thrown an ML away in 35+ years. My oldest (a T/C Hawken 50cal kit) is worn but the bore is excellent and it still shoots fantastic.

While I do agree completely that the Optima is no Encore or Omega, I fail to see why one would need to be discarded unless it was not properly taken care of?

With proper care, an ML barrel should be good for tens of thousands of shots.


mdrbowler99 05-20-2005 01:26 PM

RE: Its about that time...
 
I have to agree about buying an Omega.It may be a little more money,but you get what you pay for.The synthetic stock ones aren't that expensive and it is made in America.

rick_reno 05-21-2005 08:36 AM

RE: Its about that time...
 
I've never even seen any of those rifles - when you get one let us know how you like it.

psychowolverine 05-21-2005 09:39 AM

RE: Its about that time...
 
Go with the optima or better yet go ahead and spend the extra moola on an encore


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