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Originally Posted by patchnball
(Post 4284543)
Thanks Flags and Superhunt54 for proving my point better than I. 70 years 60 million bison....in a straight line chart you make a point. Forgot about reproduction and bison don't live to be 70 years old. First year of your 70 over 10 million bison would have had to been killed by hunters before a declining population ( 60 million...50/50 ratio bulls to cows and 33% birth rate of cows = 10 million calves) So as you can see Disease killed far more than arrows and bullets.......45 million as your number killed would take us to about the third or fourth year in 70.......Simple math and don't believe the liberal history books. By the way Rob in VT my father and brother did a South Dakota bison hunt years ago. The rancher killed bison with a 22 mag. so not a lot needed for take down with proper bullet placement. They were allowed the heads to take home and meat cost so much a pound over and above the HUNT price.
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He obviously missed Math and Biology classes in school that's for dang sure. And he obviously ignored American History!! Educating the foolish isn't within my job description tonight.
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Wow, this thread took an unexpected turn.
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Going back to the OP's post, haven't got a buff yet but it's on the bucket list. :biggrin:
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It's on my list. Just for the experience. I know Bronko2200 has also gone on a buffalo hunt(s?) Maybe he'll chime in when he logs in next.
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Originally Posted by Rob in VT
(Post 4284773)
Wow, this thread took an unexpected turn.
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Originally Posted by super_hunt54
(Post 4284619)
He obviously missed Math and Biology classes in school that's for dang sure. And he obviously ignored American History!! Educating the foolish isn't within my job description tonight.
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Originally Posted by Champlain Islander
(Post 4284994)
Not really unexpected.....:biggrin:
I would agree that it was indeed the white man that wiped em out. I would only add that while it was going on , the native americans were still killing their fair share also. not implying anything negative in that statement. it just is what it is. if the native americans , retained the status quo , in regards to buffler pops one can only conclude that adding whiteman to the mix must have contributed. point is , as most I think, would agree growing human populations on the plains helped the decline. I am not trying to argue that the whiteman didn't waste an awful lot. however I would add that the "revisionist history " saying native americans used every scrap and wasted nothing is also false. the natives would run entire herds of of cliffs and pack away only what they could carry. again JUST STATING A FACT.not trying to imply anything negative. it was their way of life and they did what they had to do to survive. what really happened to the buffler , is what happens to many species when an outside influence is introduced. they were unable to adapt to the added pressure, and they declined. same can be said of the native americans, and one day, the same will be said of the entire human race. life goes on but only for those able to adapt. ONE COULD ALSO ARGUE ,that all that which we call wasted was really not wasted. nature , eventually reclaimed every scrap. again just another truth. |
Originally Posted by Topgun 3006
(Post 4284593)
You, Sir, have no idea what you are talking about and the more you type on this thread the more embarrassed you should feel because the facts are out there and they are not as you have posted!
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I just finished reading (well, I did the audiobook, so I guess "listening") to Steven Rinella's "American Buffalo: In Search of a Lost Icon". It's an AWESOME story about his hunt for a Buffalo near the Copper River in Alaska. Not only does it go into some pretty great detail about his hunt, it also covers the history of buffalo and buffalo hunting. Highly recommend it.
https://www.amazon.com/American-Buff...=rinella+bison |
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