younggun308

I saw the Colorado Draw Results thread, and I was wondering, isn't Colorado OTC, with the exception of Sheep, Goats?Or is itdraw tags?

Why am I hearing about draw tags? Are only a few areas OTC?

Are there any other states that have OTC areas for non-residents?

How does the system work? I heard something about Idaho and Montana having preference points, and when you apply every year, you gain more and more pointsif you don't draw, and some partial refund, and if you do draw, it's prepaid, I guess? And then you just go up there and hunt?

frontier gander

Deer, buck and doe are by draw only, no such thing as OTC for deer.

Cow elk is by draw only

Looks like even Bulls are limited this year during certain seasons.

You can try to get a Left over tag, Im going to try to get a left over buck tag for 211 this year.

younggun308

Nah, I ain't going to be doing a DIY for awhile, since my uncle isn't in the position to do that, but I do want to know in advance how the situation works, since I am interested, I sure hope that bull elk tags go back to OTC for sure, since that would make it easier to hunt elk later.
I heard there's more elk than deer in Colorado, but I bet Mule Deer would be nice.

Just out of curiosity, is Colorado easier to draw than Idaho, and if so, how many years do you have to wait to draw for Deer?

Thanks for the info, that does give me a little grip on things.

I have one more question, what about bear? Is that draw?

frontier gander

Bear is OTC.

In units with trophy mule deer and elk, those units are very hard to draw for and require PP's. Now the area im hunting is also great for big deer and my dad drew a state wide muzzleloading elk tag on his first pop. We're still waiting for out deer tag results. If i see any big deer or elk, i'll be sure to help you out and point you in the right direction. I know unit 35 is great for deer and elk around Castle Peak.

Alsatian

younggun 243: I recall you have posted asking about elk hunting before. A couple of suggestions. First, buy a book on elk hunting and read it: most such books will talk about the elk permit systems. One decent book is the Jim Zumbo Elk Hunting book in the Complete Hunter book series, though there are other good elk hunting books. Second, order the Big Game regulations of several of the Western states and read them very carefully -- Colorado, Idaho, Wyoming, New Mexico, Utah, Arizona. There just isn't a short cut for doing some time consuming due diligence research on this topic. Third, get the Colorado Big Game CD and use it to get more knowledge about seasons, draw probabilities, and success rates. Get to work bud!

I'm not an expert, but most of the attractive elk permits from my perspective are limited draw permits. You have to study the particular game management units versus seasons versus public/private land relationships to understand this issue clearly. Some of the elk seasons combine elk and deer seasons and this leads to more hunters in the field; these combined seasons may be later in the year when snow up high in public lands is more probable, both making these lands difficult to hunt and pushing the elk to lower, private lands. Study the regulations and then ask experienced elk hunters focused questions.

Infa3Pete

1st and 4th rifle seasons are draw only as well as muzzleloader, and archery have draws. You need to get on the Colorado big gane website and download the proclamation. Its easy to understand and will help you figure out the seasons and draw process.

caselesss5

by the way idaho doesnt use preference points and i dont think montana does either. everybody has just as much chance as the next guy.

younggun308

I ordered Colorado Big Game reuglation brochures, but it appears that Wyoming and Idaho only have the printable thing, and I guess I could do that instead, I'll keep checking with the other states.

younggun308

Okay, I guess these are the wesites, I only was able to order for mail from Colorado and New Mexico, but that's okay, since I could print out some of the others,like I already said.

Montana:

http://fwp.mt.gov/hunting/regulations.html

http://fwp.mt.gov/fwppaperapps/hunting/accessguide.pdf

Idaho:

http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/cms/hunt/rules/

Wyoming:

http://gf.state.wy.us/admin/regulations/index.asp

Utah:

http://www.wildlife.utah.gov/hunting/

black bear:

http://wildlife.utah.gov/bear/index.php

New Mexico:

http://www.wildlife.state.nm.us/recreation/hunting/index.htm

Arizona:

http://www.azgfd.gov/h_f/hunting.shtml

http://www.azgfd.gov/pdfs/h_f/regulations/07-08/07-08.pdf


BTW, thanks for all the suggestions so far.

SILVERTIP-CO

archery cow is OTC for many units same asOTC bull.