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Red Lion 03-28-2007 08:59 AM

RE: MN moose decline a mystery
 

ORIGINAL: James B

They all came over here to North Dakota.:D
But why would they prefer arctic waste land to pristine forest? ;):D

James B 03-28-2007 10:09 AM

RE: MN moose decline a mystery
 
I don't know. We see quite a few of them around Devils Lake. Maybe they like the cold.:DOr they don't like liberals;).

Pioneer2 03-28-2007 10:59 AM

RE: MN moose decline a mystery
 
If they had enough sense to carry out an airial wolf kill[winter time] over a 5year period combined with closing down the moose season you'd have moose again!in Idaho the elk calf numbers were taking a sh-t kicking and it turned out it was predation by black bears.the key is to carry out the kull and anounce it after to avoid has been actors and tree-huggers fron getting together............Harold

Red Lion 03-28-2007 11:11 AM

RE: MN moose decline a mystery
 

ORIGINAL: Pioneer2

If they had enough sense to carry out an airial wolf kill[winter time] over a 5year period combined with closing down the moose season you'd have moose again!in Idaho the elk calf numbers were taking a sh-t kicking and it turned out it was predation by black bears.the key is to carry out the kull and anounce it after to avoid has been actors and tree-huggers fron getting together............Harold
You bring up another possibility for the decline, black bear. Last I read, MN has one of the largest black bear populations in the country, in addition to wolves, so may be both, and the worm and the fact that we had a lot of really dumbfacist moose that went to North Dakota. ;):D

younggun308 03-28-2007 01:37 PM

RE: MN moose decline a mystery
 
If you let the politicians end hunting season, then they'll never give it back.

Hiawatha 03-28-2007 01:56 PM

RE: MN moose decline a mystery
 
Any possibility its ticks? The ticks here are the moose's worst predator especially on a drought year. They take far more moose than any wolf and it looks as though they just laid down and went to sleep. I guess that is what they actually do, once the hair is rubbed off they die of exposure. Wiped us out heavy a few years back but have been slowly coming back to where we are seeing moose again on a regular basis.

James B 03-28-2007 07:18 PM

RE: MN moose decline a mystery
 
Kidding aside, the moose population is on the rise in NorDakotah.;)

Red Lion 03-29-2007 11:17 AM

RE: MN moose decline a mystery
 

ORIGINAL: Hiawatha

Any possibility its ticks? The ticks here are the moose's worst predator especially on a drought year. They take far more moose than any wolf and it looks as though they just laid down and went to sleep. I guess that is what they actually do, once the hair is rubbed off they die of exposure. Wiped us out heavy a few years back but have been slowly coming back to where we are seeing moose again on a regular basis.
Yeah I would guess that ticks could be the source as well. We did have a really pretty dry year last year and woodticks and deer ticks are thick in most places in MN.

Dfeathies 03-29-2007 07:02 PM

RE: MN moose decline a mystery
 
i believe its the wolves... the same thing has happend on isle royal national park in the UP

MinnFinn 03-30-2007 07:52 PM

RE: MN moose decline a mystery
 
It's no mystery to the people who live in northern MN and especially NE MN why moose population has dropped. In the past 30 years we've seen wolf population in those ares double and double again and again. Sure they eat a lot of deer, too. But young calves or a cow trying to protect her calves can be injured and eventually killed, too.
They can hunt 7x24 365 days / year.
Moose also do better when they have a variety of types young plants (e.g. young aspen) to forage, especially in winter when aquatic plant life is under theice.When Clinton came in office in the early 90's he effective shut down all federal land from logging. Many state tree sales were also scaled back. (The myth that leaving everything untouched is always better for wildlife was perpetrated.)
Less logging, producedless young deciduous tree and other lower plant growth. Results were also, less forage for moose to reach and other animals that depend upon it.
Mystery solved!
But of course people always seem to want find some mysterious and exotic reason for the obvious for most everything these days.


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