the 338 federal is looking promising
11-07-2006, 01:27 PM
#41
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RE: the 338 federal is looking promising
ORIGINAL: James B
My 308 loads come from the Sierra and Barnes Manuals. I took the top velocity load from each. Like I said, I don't shoot factory loads so I can't really compare them. I will have to check the Federal catalog and see how it compares to the chronographed loads from my Manuals. One other thing I would have to add is that I would have to chronograph the Fedeeral loads as well because seldom do factory loads produce their advertised velocities in standard rifles as they often use longer pressure barrels to come up with their stats. Anyway the comparison listed above on the 338-06 and 30-06 would hold very close to those of the 308 and 338 Federal. I can only be sure when I start working with the 338 Federal.
My 308 loads come from the Sierra and Barnes Manuals. I took the top velocity load from each. Like I said, I don't shoot factory loads so I can't really compare them. I will have to check the Federal catalog and see how it compares to the chronographed loads from my Manuals. One other thing I would have to add is that I would have to chronograph the Fedeeral loads as well because seldom do factory loads produce their advertised velocities in standard rifles as they often use longer pressure barrels to come up with their stats. Anyway the comparison listed above on the 338-06 and 30-06 would hold very close to those of the 308 and 338 Federal. I can only be sure when I start working with the 338 Federal.
That is irrelevant when comparing the two loads, as I did, because they are measured the same way. I'm not necessarily interested in the acutal number as I am in comparing the two.
11-07-2006, 01:46 PM
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RE: the 338 federal is looking promising
Holy christ, Brutal!!!!! Did you even READ MY POST. I Completely explained how I got those numbers. Go backto page 4, 3rd and 5th post,and see where I got my numbers.You are so concerned with being right that you can't even admit when someone has clearly disproved your argument. I'm using published numbers and a Ballistic calculator. I GIVE UP! I don't care if you "buy" it or not the facts are the facts. One thing is for sure you have enough ego for two or three men.
11-07-2006, 02:27 PM
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RE: the 338 federal is looking promising
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Holy christ, Brutal!!!!! Did you even READ MY POST. I Completely explained how I got those numbers. Go backto page 4, 3rd and 5th post,and see where I got my numbers.You are so concerned with being right that you can't even admit when someone has clearly disproved your argument. I'm using published numbers and a Ballistic calculator. I GIVE UP! I don't care if you "buy" it or not the facts are the facts. One thing is for sure you have enough ego for two or three men.
Holy christ, Brutal!!!!! Did you even READ MY POST. I Completely explained how I got those numbers. Go backto page 4, 3rd and 5th post,and see where I got my numbers.You are so concerned with being right that you can't even admit when someone has clearly disproved your argument. I'm using published numbers and a Ballistic calculator. I GIVE UP! I don't care if you "buy" it or not the facts are the facts. One thing is for sure you have enough ego for two or three men.
I'm not wrong. I was comparing a different load then the rest of you.
The 600 ft/lb difference isn't because the .338 is so much better. It's because the .308 loads you guys are comparing are apparently way underpowered compared to the one I was using.
11-07-2006, 03:58 PM
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RE: the 338 federal is looking promising
Brutal, I would really really REALLY like to know what other cartridges you actually own other than the .308.
With the way you talk I am absolutely sure that you would certainly not have any that would only duplicate the performance of another in your collection.
Just because you get great groups with your light mag loads does not, by any means, say that all "HE" and "light mag" loads are going to be accurate. Usually the opposite is true. These high energy loads are most often not the most accurate load for most people. Besides that fact. You can not use them in a semi auto rifle so if you own a BAR, 7400, R1, etc... I guess those folks are just SOL.
With the way you talk I am absolutely sure that you would certainly not have any that would only duplicate the performance of another in your collection.
Just because you get great groups with your light mag loads does not, by any means, say that all "HE" and "light mag" loads are going to be accurate. Usually the opposite is true. These high energy loads are most often not the most accurate load for most people. Besides that fact. You can not use them in a semi auto rifle so if you own a BAR, 7400, R1, etc... I guess those folks are just SOL.
11-07-2006, 05:07 PM
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RE: the 338 federal is looking promising
ORIGINAL: bigbulls
Brutal, I would really really REALLY like to know what other cartridges you actually own other than the .308.
With the way you talk I am absolutely sure that you would certainly not have any that would only duplicate the performance of another in your collection.
Just because you get great groups with your light mag loads does not, by any means, say that all "HE" and "light mag" loads are going to be accurate. Usually the opposite is true. These high energy loads are most often not the most accurate load for most people. Besides that fact. You can not use them in a semi auto rifle so if you own a BAR, 7400, R1, etc... I guess those folks are just SOL.
Brutal, I would really really REALLY like to know what other cartridges you actually own other than the .308.
With the way you talk I am absolutely sure that you would certainly not have any that would only duplicate the performance of another in your collection.
Just because you get great groups with your light mag loads does not, by any means, say that all "HE" and "light mag" loads are going to be accurate. Usually the opposite is true. These high energy loads are most often not the most accurate load for most people. Besides that fact. You can not use them in a semi auto rifle so if you own a BAR, 7400, R1, etc... I guess those folks are just SOL.
Who said you "can not use them in a semi auto rifle"? It's not reccomended. Not that it matters. The fact that it's not reccomended for a certain action doesn't mean it's somehow inferior. Quite the contrary actually.