I was wondering if anyone has ever gone on a Holstein hunt? I ask this because I love hunting as much as most.I saw thatBuffalo hunt on the Outdoor Channel this weekend. Frankly to me that wasn't much of a real hunt. The Hunter pretty much walked up to it like a local Cow and shot it twice with his muzzloader. What are others thoughts on this. Is this really hunting in your eyes? I love hunting shows however lately there has been a few new shows that seem to be hunting tame animals. Maybe I am out of line here but what do you think?

I think alot of it depends on what ranch you hunt. around here they are 100% kill rate, i know of a place in NORTH DAKOTA that they don't get 100
% kill. as it is a real hunt, you better be ready for it! but yes alot of these are easy hunts!

Holstein...as in the milk cow?

While I hesitate to call it hunting, I have read some differeing opinions on this here in NH lately that have changed my view a bit. Keeping in mind I do not consider this hunting!

There is currently a bill making its way through the NH government that will allow red stag/elk farmers to sell the right to shoot one. The main reason is that these farms cannot afford the FDA inspections to sell the meat on the grocery market or to restaraunts, not sure why they raise the animals, but that's irrelevant. The animals are classified as livestock, not game animals. The farmers want this ability to allow them to make signifigant money off their investment in the farm. At the end of the animals usefull farm life (whatever that is), they will be able to charge someone several thousand dollards to come in to shoot the animal, rather than just having to basically kill it and bury it.

Local F&g has no official position since the animals are considered livestock. It has passed the house and is off to the senate.

A bit of a different spin, not something I would like to do, but when you view it as a farmer having the right to do with his livestock as he see fit, it might add a new perception.

I agree that most of these "hunts" are far from challenging. The worst part is that non hunters observe this type of a hunt and then have the perception that all hunting is done in this fashion. I'm beginning to think the Outdoor channel is doing more harm than good for our sport.

I think the only place you could get an honest bison hunt is in Arizona or Utah where they actually have a few free roaming herds. The obvious problem with that is the difficulty of being drawn for those tags.

If the citizens of NH are smart they'll lobby the legislature to turn that down unless you want a "Bellar/Houston" situation like we have here . The bad publicity those places will spawn won't be worth it just so that a greedy few can kill defenseless livestock . Stop them before they start , once they're established they're hell to get rid of .

Without throwing stone's which I don't mean to do I'm trying to understand why someone would pay to kill a farm animal (elk) included. I guess there is a killing mindset that I don't understand, I had to dispatch many animal's on the farm but I never thought anything of it except that it was nessesary. That being said I really don't have a problem with it if it's legal, but what's next chicken shooting , someone says PULL and a chicken is thrown in the air ? I would have to compare it to instead of wining and dining a girl and hoping to score going to a brothel paying your money and doing your business. Think about the party conversation " like that steak ? " I killed it myself, we don't buy our meat at the grocerie store we kill our own and don't think it was easy, every time I tried to shoot it it kept coming at me(must have thought I had feed ) so I had to throw stones at it to have it move away so I could get an aim with my .375, you should have seen the look on its face when the .375 h@h went off , I was worried for a minute because it didn't drop right away so I edged back to the fence just to be safe. All in all it was a good hunt , I did get some mud on the bmw but it was worth it cause a man's got to do what a man's got to do! P.S. not to worry there was a car wash just outside of town !

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I can see several reasons to pay to kill a farm animal:

- lots of good meat
- cheaper than a hunt
- can't get the meat in a store (elk, etc.)

Keep in mind I wouldn't consider this hunting and would laugh at someone who mounts the head as a hunting trophy, but the end result is meat in the freezer.

The thing I don't like about the Holstein hunt is the antler restrictions. In my unit they have a restriction of at least two points on one antler, and there just aren't enough mature Holstein bulls around to have much chance of meeting this restriction.

Well, I didn't see the buffalo hunt video, but I would imagine it is pretty boring. Buffalo meat tastes good. Buffalo need to be harvested. Nothing wrong with harvesting meat, mind you, just it is more of "animal husbandry" than "hunting" when it comes to buffalo in my book.