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jjwillie 08-02-2005 07:00 AM

Pack Hunt List
 
Was wondering if some of you more experienced backpack hunters would give my gear list a look to see if I'm missing anything. I will be in the Sawtooths of Idaho from Oct 15-24th.

Sleeping Bag (Rated 20 degrees)
Sleeping Mat
Tent
Dehydrated food
Instant Oatmeal
Cereal/Granola Bars
Dried Fruit/Jerky
External Frame Pack
Compact Propane Burner (for boiling water for food/drinking)
Powdered Drink Mixes
Rifle/Shells
Binocs
two pair boots
3 pair socks
two pair pants
two shirts
one medium weight jacket
First Aid Kit
Cups/Mess Kit
Raingear
Camera
Game Bags
Fire Starter


We will have four people to shoulder the load, so if you have any suggested additions/deletions, please let me know.

thanks,
JJ

ColoradoElk 08-02-2005 07:42 AM

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Hi JJ:

Are you going in for the entire season? How far in will you be hiking? Are you all staying in the same tent?

Map, compass, GPS, flashlight/headlamp, knives & other game cleaning gear (sharpening stone), game calls, liner socks, "safety stuff", e.g. orange vest etc and don't forget your TAG!

I don't know how cold it will be, but we get always get to 10 degrees during the October seasons athigher CO elevations. Make sure your bag is sufficient. I would'nt bother with two pair of boots, but you might consider a pair of lighter shoes for around camp. I no longer carry dehydrated food. Expensive, not enough calories and plenty of good, light stuff in the grocery store. When hiking (in & out), I wear a pair of shorts and then only carry one pair of pants. Bring a toothbrush so you don't scare your buddies. Last year I stole a bunch of baby wipes from my son to washwith and they worked very well, unless you like jumping in cold lakes (ecologically unsound??). I also carry in a larger water container (empty) and end up filling it closer to camp, is very convenient than only haveing a quart or two on hand. Seal the end of your barrel with electrical tape.

Good luck,
CE

jjwillie 08-02-2005 08:19 AM

RE: Pack Hunt List
 
ColoradoElk

We'll be staying for 8-10 full hunting days. We'll be packing about 3-5 miles in from the trailhead. Also, we will be bringing two tents (one smaller and on e larger tent). I want two pairs of boots because we won't be making a fire and if one pair gets wet......you know. We were planning on packing in two days early to get camp setup, boil about 5 gal of water and locate some elk....

ColoradoElk 08-02-2005 08:39 PM

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Hi JJ:

If you are only going in five miles, you willbe better off just packingwater in those 2.5 gallon plastic containers at the grocery store (and they make GREAT boxes for packing out your garbage and are easy to hangto keep your trash/food away from the bears,a slit down the top and you have great storage, collapsible when needed). I would much rather carry in water than boil it in a 2/4/6/8/10/12 quart pan and lose 90%, and burn a bunch of fuel.If you are packing in two days early, one guy should have plenty of time topack in more water than you would need for the entire hunt.

Since you will be so close to the trailhead, consider leaving the 2nd pair of boots, pants et al in your vehicle, in case they are needed. Leave additional backup gear, e.g. food, water, clothing, extra cartridges and even a rifle,in the vehicle so you can get to it.

You don't need a fire starter if you won't be starting a fire.

Have you done this before?

CE

Jeff Ovington 08-02-2005 09:19 PM

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Glad to see your packing in advance...
But your not planning on making a Fire?????
I can tell you right now your hunts a failure,if you don't change your mind ..Fire and water /shelter are the3 most important things you need.
But that is my opinion.
I agree with the person who suggested one pair of boots..and bring moccossins.Light and easy to pack.
I would also suggest a Swiss Army Knife in your gear Spoon, Fork etc, all come in handy in one little pack.
You may want want to get rid of the sleeping mat..It will just add unnecessary weight and take up space.
Separate your socks and place them in your sleeping bag before you roll it up.If you can roll some of your food in with you sleeping bag as well to save space.
Don't forget,this space saving is critical when you hike in because lets hope you'll be hiking out with an animal as well as your gear.
Just some tips..Good Luck On Your Hunt

Elkcrazy8 08-02-2005 10:45 PM

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You will want a fire in the Sawtooths at that time of year. I camped up there a couple of weeks ago, and it was in the 40's at night. This is when it was in the 100's during the day here in the valley. Stanley(right at the foot of the Sawtooths), is usually on the nations extremes for the coldest temps. Make sure that your bag is a good one, and you just may have to fire up the heater to thaw out your water. I hunt in an area that is close to the temps that the Sawtooths have, and had to skip the teeth brushing because the toothpaste was frozen. Beautiful country though and lots of elk....................

Jeff Ovington 08-02-2005 11:13 PM

RE: Pack Hunt List
 
Don't forget a hatchet,One of your most important tools.. bring a bag of nylon rope or bungy cords.

A.D.D. BOY 08-03-2005 12:09 AM

RE: Pack Hunt List
 
i would take more clothes. your sweat would start stinkin after a while.

121553 08-03-2005 12:48 AM

RE: Pack Hunt List
 
I didn't see beer on your list.
Bobby

RobinHood36 08-03-2005 06:24 AM

RE: Pack Hunt List
 
The beer will probably freeze, bring whiskey and you can use it for antifreeze or fire starter...
RobinHood36>>>=============<>

glob3006 08-03-2005 08:40 PM

RE: Pack Hunt List
 
jjwillie,
I can only give my 2pesos .........But...If you could get a better rated sleeping bag.I think it would be to your advantage. If not......... pick up one of those thin fleece throws and pack it in with you .they are very light and comfortable.WATER???? I would NOT pack water. If you can ..............Buy a water filter pump.Bring a squashed plastic jug ..unsquash it and fill it with water . Also pick up a filtering water bottle.......... you should still be able to find a good un frozen water source in mid Oct. Remember EVERYTHING!!!! you pack in MUST be packed out. If you have Goretex lined boots you will only need one pair . As for the dehydrated food .I use it all the time. Try to get the ones that have beans and meat or veggies.These are complex carbs and protiens and they will help keep you going without just burning calories. Also peanuts peanut butter ,GORP and protien bars or powdered protien shakes (in a warm mug of water) Will keep Your muscles happy. Remember complex carbs (beans,peanuts apples) and protiens will better help tosustain your energy andfatigue your muscles less thruoghout the day.
I personally do not use a fire on my backpack trips.I am there to be as steathly as I can. If I hunt all day I usually am too tired to worry about a fire at night.
P.S I would recommend a good single malt in a flask. You won't worry about going to sleep.But don't over do it!!!! (Piss clear or your not hydrated enough)!!!!!!!
GLOB!!

HuntElk4Fun 08-03-2005 09:12 PM

RE: Pack Hunt List
 
WOOL!

I'd make a pair of those socks and a shirt a wool one. Also, I'd throw in a wool beenie and a pair of gloves. I know wool is heavier, but it's one of the very few materials that will save your life. I'd also take a lightweight Gore-tex jacket to help as well.

Just my 2 cents.

AlaskaMagnum 08-04-2005 12:55 AM

RE: Pack Hunt List
 
I would add to your list

100 feet of parachute cord
two emergency flares
water purifying tablets or pump, you will need too much fuel to boil enough water for four people for ten days , you can figure have a gallon a person per day = 20 gallons of water
water bottle
emergency space blanket
stocking cap
toilet paper
wet wipes
cigarette lighters
knives
wyoming saw or small camp axe
tent pole repair kit

jjwillie 08-04-2005 06:07 AM

RE: Pack Hunt List
 
Thanks for all the replies. Can never be too prepared.

I am probably not going to start a fire unless an emergency presents itself. My group has backpacked before in the Rockies of Colorado with no problems, but ya never know, I guess. The collapsable 5gal water jug is a great idea. Just bought the filter pump, so that should work fine.

Thanks Jeff---added the hatchet....must've been a brain fart:)

Probably gonna up the number of socks. they can get pretty nasty after 10-12 miles a day. I have two really good pairs of boots (Merrell and Meindls) The merrells are for hiking/packing and the meindls are for snowy conditions, but considerably heavier...

Again, thanks for the replies.....

rather_be_huntin 08-04-2005 11:27 AM

RE: Pack Hunt List
 
Is there a water source nearby? My suggestion would be to take a water purifier. They work very well and you don't need to pack much in or burn a bunch of fuel boiling water.

EDIT: I just read your post above. Make sure it's not just a filter, it needs to be a water purifier. The filters don't always get all the bugs. If you don't you risk getting the flaming squirts and serious gut ache and you don't want that miles from the trailhead.

Tetsa 08-10-2005 11:52 PM

RE: Pack Hunt List
 
I backpack hunt in norther bc for sheep and elk every year, I would stick with your meindl boots and a pair of sandals for around camp (as long as your not in snow), and I agree with you, a fire generally is not needed, nice to look at but thats about it


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