Wow After 2 yrs of "almost" it became "finally". Got my first bird w/my 7yr son this afternoon. The bird was 2yrs old 10 beard 3/4 spurs 21 lbs. I shot it at 5pm and its 1025pm and im still smillin Ill put pics up Fri. Guys thanks for all the help!!!! I wouldnt have keep silent after the first GOOBLE if it wasnt for you. Thanks