If you check at wall-mart after hunting season you may get a steal.A fellow came in the bait shop one day and said he bought some there for $5 a jug.Weather he did or not I don't know,I went to check to see if they had any pyro-select and they didn't have any powder left but did get some T/C xtp's for $2 a box of 20 with sabots.And they did have others things marked down ,but nothing I was interested in.