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Old 04-11-2005 | 09:10 PM
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RedAllison
 
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Default RE: Savage 10ML-II may have a big problem!!!

You want the truth?

Toby Bridges is a MORON! Thats for SURE the truth.

This info is VERY old info but if you are new too the subject let me tell you the "otherside" too the Toby Bridges boosheut.

True Toby shot them ALOT. In fact what he did NOT tell you is how many rounds the gun that blew up had put through it and what kind of loads he put through it. As for the number of rounds I have heard from as low as 2500 too as high as over 7000. Savage themselves have gone on record as stating 5000 rounds as being closer too the norm for a "life cycle" of one ML10II. But more importantly is the fact that Toby is now covering up the fact that he was experimenting with MANY powders and loads and even go so far as to "blend powders", that is mixing various burn rate powders within one charge just to see what happened. The gun that blew up had more than one type of powder in it! [:-] He actually was on record as saying he had toyed with, "A few grains of this, then a few grains topped with xyz followed by a few grains of ABC." He was actually "layering" powders in the gun. What kind of experiences did he expect?

The gun didn't fail as a result of being to weak to handle smokeless charges. In fact the guns are factory mandated to accept 3xs their normal charge. That being they will safely handle a triple load of recommended smokeless powder charges for at least one firing (hopefully by then the moron shooting the gun will realize the err of his ways!). Savage and Ball knew that the lower IQ'd in the general public could conceivably mistake putting 150grains of smokeless down the gun based on the theory that they might have done the same with 150grains of blackpowder with previous guns. The guns are tested in excess of 110k psi. Thats nearly twice the barrel pressures of a 300WBY! The guns are EXTREMELY strong by design. What caused Toby's problem was the type of charge he had as a result of being a mixed charge, caused in effect what became a pipe bomb! The powder ignited basically all at once and NO handheld barrel would've held such pressures.

The man is a MORON and has totally lost all credibility in the industry and now is crying and sobbing to any willing ear. Sadly he has found a willing audience on the net. Especially among the un-knowing!

Just like your mother always told you, "DONT believe everything you read"!
RA

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Damnskippy I own a Savage ML10II and it spits 300SSTs with 45grns of N110 like no tomorrow. I wouldn't HAVE aother "smokeypole" if I had too!!! Toby is just jealous because of the praise Henry Ball has gotten as a result of his hardwork and "invention" of what became the Savage smokeless. Simple childish jealousy! [:'(]
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