So I guess you'd say I should forget the 04' 500 Rubicon I got a price on this aft. I don't know looks pretty good but I am waiting to see what this dealer will charge for 05' 500S and if the price he gave me over the phone is the best price on the 04'. I ain't driving 2 hours to turn around with an empty box...hehe!

I agree but the no belt Honda auto design is a lot better concept than my polly or any others(even though they have come some in the past years). When ever you talk manual vs auto the auto is going to take a bit more in up keep but we are talking Honda so I would think if their is a durable Auto to rival a manual then these would be the guys to get her done. Still a bit confused to how the "Program" works with regards to the Rubicon, it is selectable to your usage, so unsure if it would be fine for hauling...I mean I ain't pulling in a tractor pull if it will yank a bull moose or better yet bull elk up the valley than I would be tickled. I know the wife never liked to drive anything but the polly so it would allow her to drive the shiny one when were at the lake or farm.

I'll be sure to drop it by for your eval, whenI make a deal..LOL

Keep em coming!