i totally agree. if people would get off the thinking of "i want the big one, but im just gonna sit here and wait for it", and start focusing on actually getting into the woods, scouting for any sign of deer including DOE, shooting does when they come by, and then, if the see a nice legal buck, killing it. personally i think if some people would just get out of their treestands, they would see that there really are some deer in the woods.