yea they stopped makin those awhile back, is that 800 for a new or used one?? on the HK's is that 2500 for a new or used one?? My dealer in town can get either HK G36's or 91's for 500 to 600 used or 1200 to 1300 new. have you considered a FAL ? they are different in design but are basically the same type of rifle as the HK or the SAR-8, IMO are 10 times the rifle compared to the others and are alot lower in price, parts, accesories and magazines are easier to find too.