What, that i don't want a thong or that i hate muzzle breaks. My foray into recoil is a 7.82 Warbird Lazzeroni/sako TRG_S. It has no muzzle break and it thumps pretty good, but i like it. I guess i could shoot deer with it, but i like my venison in steaks, not pulverized. And i still don't like thongs![:@]