This topic has gone from a legitimate question to muzzlebreaks and panties. Personally I'll wear the panties before i use a muzzlebreak. I simply cannot take the noise from a rifle with a break. i'll take the shoulder hit anyday. With regards to the Ultra mags.....my only question is why? Do we really need an "ultra" 7mm mag? or an "ultra" 300 wm? I'll have to fall back to the fenceriding position of "to each his own." However, if I have to wear panties, they better not be thongs! OUCH!