ORIGINAL: datamax
Mattiac - I wish I was silent's puppet, you don't know how many big bucks he has on his wall, do you ??
NO I wasnt aware, hey silent, I was just kidding about that whole puppet thing.... I dont want anyone to shove their fist up my arse, but Ill be your puppet if you have access to land with big bucks.
Just kidding....but seriously it did seem silly to me, but I didnt mean to poke fun at him. That was wrong. And if he wants to invite me along for a hunt that would be cool too...what state is he in?
However, you still cant convince me that its the same as drawing in the presence of an animal
Whew, thank God you agree with me on that one, I was seriously thinking you needed to check into the loony bin.[8D]
Then by golly, I shouldn't have to special order a set of 50-60lb limbs this year to accomodate my shoulder problems. They dont do anything anyway.
Thats thought provoking - seriously. Because with horizontal limb technology ......... the poundage of the "limbs" ......... its really in the cams/wheels, isn't it ?? Hmmmmmmmm
I just wanted to clear this up, the draw weight of the bow can be effected by the size of the cam, but this is not where the draw weight comes from.
Draw weight is relative to the deflection (or flexibility) of the limbs. Each different sized cam comes with a matched set of limbs to obtain that particular draw weight. Changing the size of the cam considerably will change draw weight in small amounts. Normally within a 10 pound range. But that varies. The usual change would be within 4 or 5 pounds.
Without limbs that flexed though, you would not have enough energy to propel the arrow. Yes the wheels (cams) do provide more energy than limbs alone, but without limbs you would have nothing. You could not have a bow with two unmoving fixed parts connecting a set of wheels. It just wouldnt work. So this makes your response to that gentlemens question, incorrect to an extent.
At first I thought this thread should die too....but if we drop the attitudes and discuss it, it really does make sense.
I have to say that both of you guys do seem to have an heir about you. I mean silent, come on, you keep acting like you handed me an intellectual beating. Thats so childish. Its not like we had a test on information, and you wooped me. We debated an issue! Your side had the better facts, and the winning argument. You cant say I didnt argue it well though. Nor can you say that most the others didnt. They all brought to the table valid concerns. Of course after I realized I had no chance of winning the debate, I turned to humor. You guys still took it seriously, I gotta tell you to loosen up boys, life is short.
That attitude your exuding isnt helping your case either. People will be more willing to listen to your ideas, if you treat their concerns and ideas with respect. Even if you could care less what they think. An attitude does turn people off from what you're trying to say. See if you can turn it around, and maybe you will sucker.....err....I mean convince the rest of the members to your side.
You have the persistance part down though, hehehee, what are we on now the 87th page....ahahahaha....
Well, I dont think Im ready to go out and lobby for crossbows to be introduced, but seeing how it shouldnt effect the season, I see no reason to disclude them.
Of course, I never hated crossbows to begin with, I just dont think the way you use them is fair. But it wont effect the seasons, so.....who cares.
Also though, I think hunters wishing to hunt with crossbows would need to take a different hunter ed course. Also the course certificate should NOT be good for hunting with a regular bow and arrow. If they want to make the switch, I would think they have to at least retake the shooting profficiency test again with their new weapon choice.
Alright, well Im going to chow down on some salad....hopefully when I get back there arent ten new pages on this thread. HAHHAHAAH
Later---Matt