zzvedder, I agree with you about the Leveler and the two posts are only a guide.I always have the Leveler closed until I get to the height I want to hunt . Then I crank the handle to get the position I want. I close it before coming down also.I have a Leveler for my old TL but to be honest with ya I never used it this season.Bozman posted another reply from TL.I'm sure they have gotten allot of complaints.Of course I commented in that post also.Except for the climbing and desending I do like this TL.I use the new version the same way I have always used the old model.I still think it's the shape of the semi curved aluminum in the "Vee" section. Until I'm proven wrong I will continue to believe this.Thanks for your reply. Ruger Redhawk