I did find it very helpful as I trained my first dog with it. She was very hyper setter. The one thing I like about it was that it only dealt with pointing (If memory serves) and eliminated the waterfowling aspets. With the Vizula, you want to also try another book as Vizulas can be versitile dogs.

Another book I'm into now is Henry P. Davis's book Training Your Own Bird Dog, copyright goes way back 1948. Everything in this book is out of date thus far except it has an excellent chapter on introducing the gun to your dog.

The whoa and heel command from Long's book is very good and that employs the cardboard roll. My setter learn whoa very well, but I've could have been alittle more strict in heel. She healed but often got ahead of me.

I have a goldie now who is not a real hunter. And training her without a leash is not going to happen as goldies have a mind of their own. She doesn't go to far (too fat) and doesn't have a mean bone in her body. I don't try to train her anymore but she has us very well trained.

Thanks for letting me know. I'm gonna order Long's book and keep it on hand.