Well if bowhunting was the order of the day and i wanted to put something on my back to hunt a new area then it would have to be one of the Wedgeloc stands i plan to order and 4 Lonewolf climbing sticks. This set-up offers loads more versatility and stability then any climbing stand ever could.

When gun hunting, and 25+ feet up a tree, i don't think sticking out that far makes any difference. Treeloung's new video shows that Durham fellow taking a deer that walked within easy bow range of the stand. He grabbed his rifle, adjusted himself in the stand, and made the shot all without the deer ever knowing he was there.

After my reply last night i again watched their new video. The show a girl climbing a metal pole with the new stand. They show her putting it through all the "gripping tests" that they put the old one through to include cocking the stand uneven on the pole and bouncing on either side. The stand didn't budge. I'm convinced that the gripping ability of the stand is not dependent upon the the shape of the cleats, but rather how they are engaged. When mine arrives i will put it through the same test close to the ground to put any doubt to rest.