I won't shoot farther than 35 or 40 yards probably. I only put about 3 in the kill zone (brain/vertabrae) at 40 so that is really pushing it. Winchester 3" #5's is what I shoot out of Mossberg 835 with stock Ulti-Mag Choke. I plan to buy a Comp-n-Choke tube and shoot Win. 3 1/2" soon.