I tell you to take a pass on the TreeLounge climbing stand. I have owned one for three years now, and will tell you this. If you have a spot that you can hunt without worrying about it getting stolen, you might try it. Good things about it---#1--It's comfortable, you can literally fall asleep in it without the worry of falling out. Infact, if sat in properly, you CAN'T fall out due to the side rails. #2--It has several attatchments that make it easy to hunt from, such as, bow holder, gun holder, seat cushions and pads, (all camo colored) bow hunting adapter, (for the ability to stand up) even a cup holder can be bought for it, along with a full camo blind that incases the whole stand, ect! Now, with all of this praise, you would tend to think its the greatest thing since sliced bread! Well, here is the kicker(s). #1-- It is HEAVY! DO NOT plan on packing it in somewhere every time you hunt! By the time you ad on everything you need, this stand is ridiculously heavy! I am an ex-weight lifter, and even after packing this stand in about 75 yards, I am worn out! I bought this stand because I believed the ad when it said it was easy to pack in and out of the woods, and I thought it would be good to take too the several public places near by to hunt out of. WRONG! Even if you are just going to gun hunt out of it, it is my opinion that you still need the gun holder and the bow hunting adapter so you can stand up in it. #2--LOUD--When you try to assemble this stand around a tree, you have to undo four knobs which themselves are not loud if you are careful. But then you have to take apart the back brace of the stand for both the foot climber and stand itself. In doing this, you have the impossible task of putting two threaded bolts mounted in the back brace, thru holes in the arms of the stand. When the threads rake the sides of the holes, you might as well get a drum out and beat it! Hollow aluminum and threaded steel bolts do not mix! On top of that, you now have to attempt to climb the tree, QUIETLY, good luck! This is due to the stand being in 3 telescoping pieces. When you climb,(God willing its a perfectly straight tree--no knots) the stand will rattle due to the inch-worm motion you have to use, causing the the outer 2 lengths of stand to flop up and down. I have tried every imaginable way to use this stand quietly, and the only way I have found is to lock it to that perfect tree, and leave it for the entire season! You will need to buy your own locking cables and locks, yes 2 of them, that way the stand can be left, assembled around the tree. WHEW! Sorry I was so long winded! But I thought I better tell you this info before you waste your hard earned money! By the way, by the time I ordered every little extra I needed to hunt out of it, I ended up dropping about $630.00 bucks! If any one has any suggetions (serious) on how I can make this stand better, I would love to hear them!