I think you should be very carefull here. Game commisions in MANY states are controlled POLITICALLY not by professional wildlife biologists. Here in NY the DEC makes no bones about AR being experimented with in Ulster and Sullivan counties as a direct result of hunter pressure to do so. All you have to do is go to a few meetings to find out that they are interested in what they term "hunter satisfaction" more than the health of the deer herd. Game commisions need to sell hunting licenses and keep their politician supervisors happy. So when the hunters are pushing for AR (not QDM) so they can get their big buck and the insurance companies are pushing the politicians to reduce the deer numbers, what do you think the priority is for the health of the deer? No, we can't just sit back and be ignorant of how game management works. That's a cop out. There is tons of literature available and anybody with average intellegence can read and understand it.

BTW the person that you quoted about the 8:1 ratio didn't have the answer either. He clearly hadn't read a thing about it but that didn't stop him from throwing the numbers around like he did know and that's part of the problem. When I tried to do some "education" regarding what doe/buck ratios really mean I was called a "wanker".