Doe Dumper, dont you know that the deer have started developing built in kevlar. Plus Ive heard they are looking into radar, that way youll have to shoot at them from at least a mile away as to be out of there radar range. Heck as we speak, Im turning my 7-08 into a squirrel outfit and having a rifle built off a 20mm cannon, you never know, those deer could turn up in depleted uranimum body armor next.