Opinion is what is used to say the crossbow isn't a bow or shouldn't be allowed in archery season
Facts are what backs the people who say it doesn't matter if crossbows are allowed because they have no negative impact on archery season what so ever.
You definitely got this backwards, the FACT is that crossbows are not allowed in archery season in almost every state, but your Opinion is they all have it wrong and it should be changed. Those are the simple facts.
missed_another Let us know when that P&Y walks up and lets you shoot him
Hey Data, a "P&Y" would not be an accurate way to gauge a deer with a crossbow in your hands .. as they aren't eligible for their record books. Archers uses the P&Y standard to measure deer, Crossbow guys use B&C or some other local way of measuring.[/quote]
Well MaJay I did grow up in a real bad neighbor hood. I have been shot at once and cut with a knife twice and I watched a guy get stabbed 37 times my second week of junior high.
This thread isn't about people waiting it's about your arogance and you your greed and your need to feel special.
and finally
If you aren't capable of shooting a compound then you don't deserve to hunt? That's your basic argument right?
No Silent, that is not my basic argument, not by a long shot. You may be the hardest to debate with of the 3 Crossbow supporters here. You stated that I flip flopped on disabled being allowed to use crossbows, that is wrong. I think they should be allowed, but only due to their disability and I don't consider bow hunting. I do appreciate and admire their effort to hunt in the context of their disability. My argument has never been if you aren't capable of shooting a bow that you should not hunt. In fact I think we should do everything in our power to promote and allow people to hunt. What you aren't getting is that if you hunt with shotguns, you need to wait. If you love ML's .. you guessed it, you have to wait. If you want to use a crossbow, you need to wait till the appropriate season WHENEVER that state may set it. If it happens to overlap archery, so be it. If it happens to be in firearms season as it is here in NH, then live with it. What I think is absolutely ridiculous is to change the legal definition of archery in 47 states for the sake of a few crossbow guys and the crossbow manufacturers. Hell, crossbow guys HAVE THE RIGHT TO HUNT in most states .. they just hate that those states have chosen to lump them with the firearms guys. Well instead of whining I think they should shut up and hunt and be proud they have the privilege.. and if they end up requiring more time afield, or be an option for game management, the states will allow it because Game Commissions don't care what specific weapon gets time in the field, they manage the hunters and the herd. Right now crossbows are insignificant and have a small following .. and they don't fit in the predetermined weapon categories... so make them their own season if the state warrants it, or allow them to hunt in firearm season is when all weapons can be used.
BigJ, that was my point last week. Illinois should allow healthy people who want to use crossbows a time to use them. At the very least during firearms season, but I think they should consider a crossbow season. They in no way qualify by Illinois’s standards of what legal archery equipment is, so instead of changing archery, they should create a crossbow season. IMHO of course...