My dad killed a nice bird last week there was only 3 pellets that hit him only 1 was in the the birds kill zone. He shoots 2 3/4 win. #4 1 1/2 oz the bird was 25 yards.

I shot one in the head with hevi shot 3in #4 1 1/2 oz and my bird flew 30 yards you never know I guess. He was 20yards