Have you guys actually shot the Pinnacle yet? I just got five pounds and had to pay the hazmat fee to get it as Arizona seems to be on the last to receive new powder list. I know it was developed with American Pioneer but it is slightly different color and may have slightly different characteristics. I see the comment that it is the same as APP but am curious if that is from shooting experience or just assumption. I may know soon as I now have some to get through my Omega and over the chronograph. I do not have any fffg APP to compare although I did order the fffg Pinnacle which is still pretty large in grain size. I intend to make a comparison of Pinnacle and Black Mag'3 as I think one or the other of those is going to be what I settle on. I used Black Mag'3 this hunting season and was really pleased with the performance. If Pinnacle is even close to as clean and shoots as well for me and is more available it might take the first place position. Time will tell. I will try to post results when I get range time. Pinnacle may be less expensive when it is really available in stores or at least that is what a rep from Goex told me.